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From [e-mail]  Sat Nov  6 07:54:52 1993
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From: [e-mail] (BOB BERLYN)
Subject: Dumb Question #378
Date: Sat,  6 Nov 1993 01:30:37 GMT
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Thanks for all the responses,

Bruce (WT1M) Boy it's a small world, sure I know Ray Collins. He gave me
my Inst ticket at Marlboro Mass in ...... Well I cant remember the
year,,, but it was a while ago.  I fly for Trans World Express and am a
Captain on an ATR-42, a French made twin engine turbo prop, carries 46
Pax and a crew of three. By the way TWE is a wholly owned subsidiary of
TWA. I stopped counting my hours at 10,000  but i'd rather be flying the
way you are for FUN.

Kevin (WB2EMS) I hear your friend on the hotel rooms all over the
Northeast and Midatlantic, thats why I want to take a QRP rig on the
road with me. 40 Mtrs is a good band but I think 30 would be better just
because the ant size is smaller. Thats a real factor when your trying to
pack for 5 days and take a QRP rig with you.

Bob (WA7OVU) I have not heard of a J-pole what is it ? Although some
Hotel room windows don't open at all, that might be a problem

Dennis (N6TTW) Slinky antennas...... hmmmmm intresting, I have seen a
couple of articles on them but never paid much attention, I guess I'll
have to look that up. I kind of wanted to build an ANT that woluld not
require a tuner. I might just have to build me a QRP trans Match to take
on the road. I want to try to keep the bulk down as much as possable.
BUT I WILL NOT BE DENIED !!!

Chuck (K5FO) I agree with you 100 % an effecient ant that will fit in my
overnight bag that will get out like gangebusters is all I ask.

I will keep you all posted on my quest for the perfect ANT for Hotel
room QRP.

Ohh one last thin. What Freq's do the QRP/ers hang out on 40 Mtrs ?

I hope to chat with all of you on the air.

Agn 73 es TNX DE N1PWU

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Bob Berlyn                             N1PWU
[e-mail]              Just Me
                                       East Greenwich, RI

I wish I understood half of what I think I know

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From: [e-mail] (Charles Adams)
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Subject: Hambrew


Bob, N4AHB, writes:

"

I never ordered Hawbrew but received a copy in the mail two days ago.

Bob
N4AHB

"

Now Bob, that's a heck of way to treat us.  :-)  Tease us like
that.  Tell us, what's in it.  Do you think it would be worth
$20 a year?  Inquiring minds wanna know.  We just gotta know.

:-)

Confess and yee shall be forgiven.

ciao,
SIG
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Chuck Adams, K5FO - CP60
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QRP ARCI Awards Chairman




From [e-mail]  Sat Nov  6 10:11:18 1993
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From: [e-mail] (Doug Hendricks)
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Subject: NorCal Meeting

This is the weekend for the NorCal QRP Club meeting.  It is at the "California
Burger Restaurant" at the Santa Rita Exit on I-580 West of Livermore.  Meeting
starts at 11:00.  Ends ????.  bring your NorCal 40 and show us your work.  I
will miss the meeting as I have to take my daughter to Arcata to visit Humboldt
State U.  She is a senior and I promised her that she could pick the weekend
to visit.  She chose this one.  Darn.  But, my NorCal 40 will be at the meeting,
it has a gold case, light yellow panel, and rub on lettering.  Also, pre
publication copy of Issue #3 of QRPp will be there for you to preview.  CUL,
72, Doug

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From: [e-mail] (Charles Adams)
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Subject: SS '93
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Well gang,

it's all part of history now.

I really don't know why I take the abuse.  I work 16 hr days for a week.
Decide to blow off any contesting at all.  Get to the ranch on Friday
nite, kick off the old shoes, build a fire and just chill out.  Didn't
even think of turning the rig on.  I was a vegetable, probably a radish
or a lettuce.  Brain dead.  Just plain pooped.

Saturday morning I run back into the office 'til lunch time to work
on setting up a classroom for classes starting this Monday.  Spend
the afternoon cleaning around the shack.  Still haven't touched a rig.
Almost had a disaster.  The NorCal 40 uses an RCA plug for power.
Had the Gel Cell on the desk and moved it.  Well, the plug came in contact
with one of those fancy dial critters, a fender washer.  Almost melted
the wire just in an instant.  This gonna change.  Back to the 12V
plug like in the OHR rigs.  No problem.

So, got to thinking.  Hey, AA2U is going to work this contest at
a closer distance.  This may be the chance of a lifetime.  No pain,
no gain.

OK, SS is the second biggest or third biggest contest of the year for
CW ops.  #1 is probably the DX TEST, coming up soon (more later).
#2 is probably field day in the US and NA.  Then SS contest, both
CW es SSB.  OK, wait, I haven't operated this thing since 1988.  No
logs or dup sheets.  No problem.  Down to the desk and make some up
with the workstation and laser printer.  Good job.  ARRL won't mind
these puppies.  :-)

So scramble to set up the NN1G rigs for 40 and 20.  I was thinking
about just doing 40, my favorite band in the whole universe.  So,
0451 call the first station.  Now mind you, I'm running 0.95W out
on both bands.  I'm out gunned and I'm out numbered.  The first critter
hears me.  A 8 in LA?  Used to be a 5, but now days, it doesn't matter!!
And off I go, frequency hopping like a wild hare.  An hour and a half
later, I'm dead.  Quit for the nite.  Nap time.  Saw some logs......

Next morning (Sunday), 1427 back on 40.  Work two hours, band about
dead.  OK, let's do 20.  Off to 20.  On and off 20, then to 40M to
finish at 0300.  It's a miracle.  The only time in the world that
so many people are synced with WWV.  The band goes from pure mayhem
to almost dead quiet.  :-)


I didn't make 200 contacts.  Spent too much time having fun looking for
Sections.  I needed PAC VI PR AK ND VT CT NLI DE NFL SFL MS SF and WY!

Where was florida?  I heard one, but he had a pileup.

Pete, VE5VA, did you get the MT that you needed?  I hope so.  In last
45 minutes the section hunting paid off.

Saturday nite, I heard a station calling AA2U around 7.015.  I couldn'
hear Randy.  Listened hard, but pileup on him like mad.  OK, Sunday
1909Z, there he is on 20.  Randy must have been running less power than
me.  He was the weakest kid on the band all weekend from this qth.  I
know he has an antenna farm, but no juice headed my way.  Randy, how
much power were you running?  Tell us, inquiring minds just gotta know.
He's in the log.  Fair and square.  QSL in the mail Randy.  SASE included,
so don't send me one yet.  High point of my day, for sure.  Thanks
Randy.  I could have sworn that I heard him laugh when I gave him my
NR.  He sent his first and I was embarassed to give him mine.  An
order of magnitude difference.  Of course, had I started from the start
we would have been neck and neck!! :-)  ;-)  Good show Randy.

Last hour was really a challenge.  Had a bunch of sections to go
and I was really worried.  Had a goal, which I stupidly announced
to this group.  But ran a string together you would have been proud of.

Another high point.  Needed SV and LAX in 6 land.  Got both, but the
hard way.  K6FO in SV and AB6FO in LAX!!!!  Both within 5 contacts of
each other on 40 meters at 0149Z and 0158Z.

How did anyone else do?  We know that Randy took the QRP division on
this one again.  Surely he did.

Not that many Qs heard here.  That's the QRP division of SS.
Bunch of good ops.  I got a lot of calls memorized and will probably
be having dreams in CW for sure now.  Randy had a freq locked down.
I just hopped, but worked just about everyone that was new to me.
What slows this down and not a good contest procedure is that you
have to listen to a lot of two way exchanges before you get your
chance to peep.  CQs are easy to answer, but if exchange in progress
you listen to both, just to get both calls and sections to make a
decision.  Even at 30 to 40 wpm, this takes time.

If you want to get your code speed up, this is the contest.  Don't
be afraid.  You can practice by listening to a guys call and exchange
til you get it, then call him.  It'll be second hand before you know
it.

The NN1G receivers held up nicely and no complaints from me.  Used
OHR cap audio filter some, but not all that much.  The AGC mod in
the K5FO special worked fairly well.  (my version of the NN1G with
some other goodies to be announced shortly)  Sorry, no advance press
on this one, until I'm sure.  Hold your horses.

Peter, VE5VA, wrote me a nice note about working the DX test to
rack up the countries for my DXCC on 40M QRP within a year.  Pete,
I'm going for it.  So plans in place to go all out in this one.
Any help from others, Randy et.al., I'm open to suggestions. The
HF6V comes outta the garage along with the long wire and a beam
for 20 should help.

OK, too long a posting.  I'll be buried again this week.  But,
I'll be monitoring every chance I get.

73 es gl to all de k5fo  NR XXX Q K5FO 58 NTX K

dit   dit  <cl>

SIG
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Chuck Adams, K5FO - CP60
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QRP ARCI Awards Chairman




From [e-mail]  Mon Nov  8 06:46:33 1993
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From: "Bob Scott" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Hambrew
To: "QRP" <[e-mail]>

                      Re>Hambrew
Charles, you are one up on me.  The only thing I have ever received was a card
postmarked 17 September thanking me for my subscription.



From [e-mail]  Mon Nov  8 07:38:49 1993
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From: Brad Mitchell <[e-mail]>
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My opinion, and mine only...
I bet if the league was publishing this
magazine, that all that ordered would have it. 73 Brad WB8YGG

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Says WB8YGG:

>My opinion, and mine only...
>I bet if the league was publishing this
>magazine, that all that ordered would have it. 73 Brad WB8YGG

Maybe so, but would it have anything in it of value?  :-)  :-)  :-)

Duane
WB9OMC


From [e-mail]  Mon Nov  8 09:16:18 1993
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Subject: Re: SS '93
To: [e-mail] (Charles Adams)
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1993 09:14:59 -0500 (EST)
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Chuck,
  I knew you couldn't stay away!! :-) You should have come up and
visited us slow pokes in the Novice sub-bands :-) I worked only
40 and 80 meters because I only tested in the wee morning hours and in
the late afternoon and evenings.

> How did anyone else do?  We know that Randy took the QRP division on
> this one again.  Surely he did.

I did okay for my first real CW contest after Murphy struck during the
ARCI QRP contest (lets put it this way I didn't come close to a clean sweep).
I'll have to admit I didn't work QRP this time around.
I was running about 25 watts. (I know what your thinking!! :-) )
When I get my code speed up and get more experience under my
belt I will be turning it farther and farther down.

>
> Not that many Qs heard here.  That's the QRP division of SS.

I worked two Qs, one in NNJ and one in EMA.

> If you want to get your code speed up, this is the contest.  Don't
> be afraid.  You can practice by listening to a guys call and exchange
> til you get it, then call him.  It'll be second hand before you know
> it.

That is the exact method I used until I got some confidence and figured I'd
try calling CQ SS myself...boy was that fun I had a pile-up instantly. I
worked about 7-8 before the dust settled :-) Not a huge pile-up, but, when
you are poking about 10 wpm with the long exchange that's about all that
will hang around for you...Only had to ask for a couple of repeats. Not bad
for a rookie CW op. Ya know this CW stuff is really a lot of fun, especially
when you start to get the hang of it!!!

>
> OK, too long a posting.  I'll be buried again this week.  But,
> I'll be monitoring every chance I get.

Sorry to hear you will be buried...I'm sure, I and a few others on this
list look forward to your posts.

>
> 73 es gl to all de k5fo  NR XXX Q K5FO 58 NTX K

73 es tnx fer post de kd4yrn  NR XX A KD4YRN NC BK

SK de KD4YRN dit dit

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From [e-mail]  Mon Nov  8 09:35:05 1993
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I did some QRPing this weekend, but only in the 40 novice band.  I worked
two other Qs, one in ENY, the other in OH.  Nothing to write home about:
only 49 QSOs and 23 sections (my dipole is not fit for QRP use: 25 feet
above ground).  Had fun and will certainly do it again next year (but with
a real antenna).

73
Bob, wa2zzx (snj)

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Subject: Hambrew

I was disappointed at first, since it is SMALL and BLACK-WHITE. Some of the
articles are not the best, and the software/layout tools weren't used very
well. I suspect the publisher (?NAME?) is trying to scrounge up subscriptions.
I might stick with it for the year (a suggestion from the XYL) and make
comments and suggestions to the people involved. The premise isn't bad,
it just wasn't executed very well.

Doug Datwyler
WR7O
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From: [e-mail] (Howard E. Rast)
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Please drop my subscription.  I don't have time to read all the
messages.



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From: [e-mail] (Jim Kearman)
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Subject: QRP In Sweepstakes

If you didn't work Zack, KH6CP, who was masquerading at
W1AW/QRP, you didn't operate Sweepstakes.

72/73, Jim, KR1S

(That's a joke, Chuck. I don't know how you could have
missed Connecticut, though....)



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Subject: QRP SS Scores

Here are some of the QRP SS CW scores I heard last night on 3830.

W2GD  814/76
K0FRP  824/75
W9RE  751/76
AA2U  757/75
K1TR  686/76
WA4PGM 667/76

Please send me any others.  I'll send out an update when I get a few more.

Ed, K1TR
[e-mail]

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Subject: Better on Second Contest (SS)




    Well guess what gang, Mark managed to make the decision that I
    wanted to put myself through more suffering by entering another
    CONTEST!  Now mind you, the last experience was not all that bad,
    if you get past the fact that I forgot CW at a crucial moment, and
    had to start with the code practice over the last couple of weeks
    to get the ability back.  Again I ask, why does anybody do this? :))

    I managed to get to the radio about 4 hours after the contest started.
    Of course this was better in the long run, this was the EVENING after
    all.  Much better for my CW abilities (I now have none remember :)).
    Well I tune around on 40, and I find a nice pleasant station calling
    CQ, and strong to boot.  KA7W..(naw).X..(can't be)..N.. Not only am
    I astonished that I can even comprehend all those little rascals, but
    I can write them down too! :(-)  But most of all, this is my dad who
    is doing the contest. Wow, make a great first contact.  What came after
    is best described as a ROAR.  I tried a couple of times to get him,
    but to no avail.  A couple of hours later, I notice that while I am
    having fun, my contact rate is 3 per DAY?....no silly, HOUR!!! Wow,
    I had better get going.  I am supposed to WIN you know.

    I ended the contest with 36 contacts, for an average of 1 contact every
    12 minutes, or 5 per hour.  At times I even got 1 every 4 minutes!!
    What Joy-Joy feelings that brings. :)))

    Now I just need to get ready for that ARCI contest that comes in
    December.  I think this contester was born yesterday..:))

    Good luck.

    72,  Mark  (14 wpm and increasing)



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Thanks for all the good info guys.

Don Peacock
N7PMN

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Subject: RE: hambrew


> From [e-mail] Mon Nov  8 09:59:29 1993
> Date: Mon, 8 Nov 93 06:05:40 -0500
> From: [e-mail] (Duane P Mantick)
> To: [e-mail]
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>
> Says WB8YGG:
>
> >My opinion, and mine only...
> >I bet if the league was publishing this
> >magazine, that all that ordered would have it. 73 Brad WB8YGG
>
> Maybe so, but would it have anything in it of value?  :-)  :-)  :-)
>
> Duane
> WB9OMC
>
>
Good Point! Lately I haven't got too much from QST, but I haven't
written much lately either.  hi hi..

            73 all.. Brad WB8YGG  chirp chirp

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From: [e-mail] (Jim Kearman)
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Subject: RE: hambrew

Duane, WB9OMC, says:
>
> Says WB8YGG:
>
> >My opinion, and mine only...
> >I bet if the league was publishing this
> >magazine, that all that ordered would have it. 73 Brad WB8YGG
>
> Maybe so, but would it have anything in it of value?  :-)  :-)  :-)
>
> Duane
> WB9OMC
>
>

But Duane's hardly in a position to make such a joke, as his
ARRL membership ran out in 1982, according to our records. :>

Jim, KR1S

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From: [e-mail] (Charles Adams)
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Subject: Re: QRP In Sweepstakes



Jim,

Did I miss Zack or did he miss me?  That guy is always at the higher
frequencies.  Probably scared him to come down into the IR instead
of being up there in the Visible light spectrum.  :-)

I was on 7.045 or thereabouts when WHAM!  QST DE W1AW .....  right
in the middle of the contest.
A schedule is a schedule..... :-)

Yep, I missed CT.  Next year.

73













SIG
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Chuck Adams, K5FO - CP60
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QRP ARCI Awards Chairman




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HI,

Well Sweepstakes is probably my favorite CW contest.. I like the longer
exchange. I somehow messed up and was waiting for it next weekend. I
unfortunaley had my whole TV antenna and Satellite systems in various
states of repair.  I worked non-qrp for a while to test out my 850 and
various filters.

Got a few minutes only at the end of the contest while doing some
soldering repairs I turned on the ARK40.. figured it would be a good
test. The 40 meter band was pretty tough.. at times the 500 hz filter on
the 850 just didn't do the job and had do use the DSP and tried both the
Oak Hills and Tejas audio filters.  I was surprised how easy it was to
get through on the ARK.. don't have anything but a vertical for 40
meters. I found if I turned on the Audio Filter on the ARK I was able to
really only hear the one signal.. found that the push buttons for tuning
that sometimes can be a pain, worked real well for contesting...if I can
ever get the $25 Superkeyr going.. I can have a tiny contest setup up..
may have to try it from a mountain top in the Smokies.

What kinda ranch you have Chuck?

72

Jeff, AC4HF

From [e-mail]  Mon Nov  8 13:19:45 1993
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    by gossip.pyramid.com (5.61/OSx5.1a Pyramid-Internet-Gateway)
    id AA02823; Mon, 8 Nov 93 10:19:54 -0800
    id AA13460; Mon, 8 Nov 93 10:17:55 -0800
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 93 10:17:55 -0800
From: [e-mail] (Mark Cronenwett)
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: My Account of SS



    I did not see my posting get posted yet, so I assume it did not make
    it.  Funny, it did not bounce either.  My most humble (yeah, right:))
    apologies if this is a second time around..




    Well guess what gang, Mark managed to make the decision that I
    wanted to put myself through more suffering by entering another
    CONTEST!  Now mind you, the last experience was not all that bad,
    if you get past the fact that I forgot CW at a crucial moment, and
    had to start with the code practice over the last couple of weeks
    to get the ability back.  Again I ask, why does anybody do this? :))

    I managed to get to the radio about 4 hours after the contest started.
    Of course this was better in the long run, this was the EVENING after
    all.  Much better for my CW abilities (I now have none remember :)).
    Well I tune around on 40, and I find a nice pleasant station calling
    CQ, and strong to boot.  KA7W..(naw).X..(can't be)..N.. Not only am
    I astonished that I can even comprehend all those little rascals, but
    I can write them down too! :(-)  But most of all, this is my dad who
    is doing the contest. Wow, make a great first contact.  What came after
    is best described as a ROAR.  I tried a couple of times to get him,
    but to no avail.  A couple of hours later, I notice that while I am
    having fun, my contact rate is 3 per DAY?....no silly, HOUR!!! Wow,
    I had better get going.  I am supposed to WIN you know.

    I ended the contest with 36 contacts, for an average of 1 contact every
    12 minutes, or 5 per hour.  At times I even got 1 every 4 minutes!!
    What Joy-Joy feelings that brings. :)))

    Now I just need to get ready for that ARCI contest that comes in
    December.  I think this contester was born yesterday..:))

    Good luck.

    72,  Mark  (14 wpm and increasing)



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From [e-mail]  Mon Nov  8 13:32:21 1993
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    id AA14513; Mon, 8 Nov 93 13:32:12 -0500
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 93 13:32:12 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Duane P Mantick)
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: mail from KR1S


Says Jim:

>But Duane's hardly in a position to make such a joke, as his
>ARRL membership ran out in 1982, according to our records. :>

    Obviously your records are incomplete.  My membership was
allowed to expire after a nasty mail exchange with one of the head honchos
about that central division election back in those days that stirred up
a great controversy.

    I wrote to HQ that I was quite distressed that some crud regarding
that election was done behind closed doors.  I expressed distaste that
paid up voting members were being kept in the dark.

    Some (person) wrote back telling me that it was none of my
blankety-blank business how the ARRL conducted business.

    Excuse me?  With MY membership dues?  Wrongo.  That was the
end of my involvement with ARRL.

    I really see no need to get into any greater detail than that, Jim.
The QRPer's have more important things to read about.  Of course, we can
take it to email......not GROUP email....   :-)

Duane



From [e-mail]  Mon Nov  8 13:35:02 1993
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    id AA14531; Mon, 8 Nov 93 06:50:30 PST
    id AA17274; Mon, 8 Nov 93 06:47:15 PST
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 93 06:47:15 PST
From: [e-mail] (Howard E. Rast)
Message-Id: <9311081447.AA17274@cod>
To: [e-mail]
Cc: [e-mail]
Subject: UNSUBSCRIBE

Please drop my subscription.  I don't have time to read all the
messages.



From [e-mail]  Mon Nov  8 13:51:21 1993
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    id AA08957; Mon, 8 Nov 93 07:48:52 MST
    id AA27055; Mon, 8 Nov 93 07:49:07 MST
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 93 07:49:07 MST
From: Doug Datwyler <[e-mail]>
Message-Id: <9311081449.AA27055@moons>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Hambrew

I was disappointed at first, since it is SMALL and BLACK-WHITE. Some of the
articles are not the best, and the software/layout tools weren't used very
well. I suspect the publisher (?NAME?) is trying to scrounge up subscriptions.
I might stick with it for the year (a suggestion from the XYL) and make
comments and suggestions to the people involved. The premise isn't bad,
it just wasn't executed very well.

Doug Datwyler
WR7O
[e-mail]

From [e-mail]  Mon Nov  8 14:37:23 1993
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    (for @think.com.:[e-mail] ) id AA13546; Mon, 8 Nov 93 14:36:41 -0500
From: [e-mail] (John L. Luigi Giasi)
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Zing!
To: [e-mail], [e-mail]
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 93 14:36:40 EST
In-Reply-To: <20569@jek>; from "Jim Kearman" at Nov 8, 93 4:22 pm
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]

In the message from Jim Kearman........
->Duane, WB9OMC, says:
->> Maybe so, but would it have anything in it of value?  :-)  :-)  :-)
->
->But Duane's hardly in a position to make such a joke, as his
->ARRL membership ran out in 1982, according to our records. :>
->
->Jim, KR1S

Including the emoticons... it still bears out:

    League - 1 (actually more like 160,00)

    WB9OMC - 0

--
John L. Luigi Giasi, AA1AA                         [e-mail]
System Programmer
Scientific Computing, IRD
University of Massachusetts Medical Center                             ..._._

From [e-mail]  Mon Nov  8 14:49:01 1993
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From: [e-mail]
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 93 10:04 EST
Original-From: mvuxb!es (Edward S Parsons [phone])
To: [e-mail]
Subject: QRP SS Scores

Here are some of the QRP SS CW scores I heard last night on 3830.

W2GD  814/76
K0FRP  824/75
W9RE  751/76
AA2U  757/75
K1TR  686/76
WA4PGM 667/76

Please send me any others.  I'll send out an update when I get a few more.

Ed, K1TR
[e-mail]

From [e-mail]  Mon Nov  8 15:04:18 1993
    id AA05983; Mon, 8 Nov 93 09:03:57 MST
    id AA00443; Mon, 8 Nov 93 09:03:55 MST
    id AA01244; Mon, 8 Nov 93 09:03:53 MST
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    id AA09173; Mon, 8 Nov 93 09:01:10 -0700
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From: [e-mail] (Don Peacock)
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 93 09:04:20 MST
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Unsubscribe

Thanks for all the good info guys.

Don Peacock
N7PMN

From [e-mail]  Mon Nov  8 15:19:36 1993
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    id AA10070; Mon, 8 Nov 93 11:15:43 -0500
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  (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4); Mon, 8 Nov 1993 10:16:05 -0500
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1993 10:16:05 -0500
From: Brad Mitchell <[e-mail]>
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail], [e-mail]
Subject: RE: hambrew


> From [e-mail] Mon Nov  8 09:59:29 1993
> Date: Mon, 8 Nov 93 06:05:40 -0500
> From: [e-mail] (Duane P Mantick)
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: RE: hambrew
> Content-Length: 234
>
>
> Says WB8YGG:
>
> >My opinion, and mine only...
> >I bet if the league was publishing this
> >magazine, that all that ordered would have it. 73 Brad WB8YGG
>
> Maybe so, but would it have anything in it of value?  :-)  :-)  :-)
>
> Duane
> WB9OMC
>
>
Good Point! Lately I haven't got too much from QST, but I haven't
written much lately either.  hi hi..

            73 all.. Brad WB8YGG  chirp chirp

From [e-mail]  Mon Nov  8 15:23:46 1993
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    by gossip.pyramid.com (5.61/OSx5.1a Pyramid-Internet-Gateway)
    id AA17002; Mon, 8 Nov 93 07:56:10 -0800
    id AA05523; Mon, 8 Nov 93 07:54:11 -0800
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 93 07:54:11 -0800
From: [e-mail] (Mark Cronenwett)
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Better on Second Contest (SS)




    Well guess what gang, Mark managed to make the decision that I
    wanted to put myself through more suffering by entering another
    CONTEST!  Now mind you, the last experience was not all that bad,
    if you get past the fact that I forgot CW at a crucial moment, and
    had to start with the code practice over the last couple of weeks
    to get the ability back.  Again I ask, why does anybody do this? :))

    I managed to get to the radio about 4 hours after the contest started.
    Of course this was better in the long run, this was the EVENING after
    all.  Much better for my CW abilities (I now have none remember :)).
    Well I tune around on 40, and I find a nice pleasant station calling
    CQ, and strong to boot.  KA7W..(naw).X..(can't be)..N.. Not only am
    I astonished that I can even comprehend all those little rascals, but
    I can write them down too! :(-)  But most of all, this is my dad who
    is doing the contest. Wow, make a great first contact.  What came after
    is best described as a ROAR.  I tried a couple of times to get him,
    but to no avail.  A couple of hours later, I notice that while I am
    having fun, my contact rate is 3 per DAY?....no silly, HOUR!!! Wow,
    I had better get going.  I am supposed to WIN you know.

    I ended the contest with 36 contacts, for an average of 1 contact every
    12 minutes, or 5 per hour.  At times I even got 1 every 4 minutes!!
    What Joy-Joy feelings that brings. :)))

    Now I just need to get ready for that ARCI contest that comes in
    December.  I think this contester was born yesterday..:))

    Good luck.

    72,  Mark  (14 wpm and increasing)



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    ---mmmm-----    Board Analysis and Repair Team   Naui AI Z9697
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From [e-mail]  Mon Nov  8 15:48:03 1993
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    id AA28461; Mon, 8 Nov 93 15:47:57 -0500
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 93 15:47:57 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Duane P Mantick)
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: qrp in general


I have the distinct feeling that most of y'all are dedicated CW QRPers.

(and most of the construction projects I see are CW related)

Anybody out there doing SSB or FM QRP work?

Duane
wb9omc


From [e-mail]  Mon Nov  8 15:55:51 1993
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Date:     Mon, 8 Nov 93 15:49:03 EST
From: Clark Fishman (FSAC-FCD) <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject:  Hambrew
Message-Id:  <[e-mail]>



Ok you guys,  now that you got my interest,  that's the
table of contents for this newly launched mag???

Is it bigger then Sprat???

Inquiring mimes want to know


WA2unn

From [e-mail]  Mon Nov  8 16:16:10 1993
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    id AA10966; Mon, 8 Nov 93 14:51:06 EST
From: [e-mail] ( Jim Osburn          )
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Video
To: [e-mail] (QRP Mailing List)
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 93 14:51:04 EST
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]

If I had a video camera, which I don't, I would make a QRP video.

I would include descriptions of the latest models of rigs.
I would particularly show the insides of the rigs.
I would show a kit under construction.
I would show a homebrew rig under construction.
I would show operating procedures.
And I would show and describe the various publications available.
I would take my video camera to Field Day and show that too.
I might also interview famous QRP people at the Dayton hamfest.

I would then make about 100 copies of the video and sell them
at hamfests.  I would also sell them to subscribers of this QRP mailing list.
If those 100 go quickly, I would make more copies and put ads out.
I wouldn't do it to make money, I would do it to inform people about QRP.

But I don't have a video camera.
Maybe someone else will be inspired to make "QRP - The Video".
Then I could just buy a copy.

73,

Jim, WD9EYB

From [e-mail]  Mon Nov  8 16:28:27 1993
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 <[e-mail]>; Mon, 8 Nov 1993 15:29:31 CST
Date: Mon, 08 Nov 1993 15:29:31 -0600 (CST)
From: "JEFF M. GOLD" <[e-mail]>
Subject: other opinion
To: [e-mail]
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> > Says WB8YGG:
> >
> > >My opinion, and mine only...
> > >I bet if the league was publishing this
> > >magazine, that all that ordered would have it. 73 Brad WB8YGG
> >
> > Maybe so, but would it have anything in it of value?  :-)  :-)  :-)
> >
> > Duane
> > WB9OMC
> >
> >
> Good Point! Lately I haven't got too much from QST, but I haven't
> written much lately either.  hi hi..
>
>             73 all.. Brad WB8YGG  chirp chirp

Well started out and wrote a note, then scratched it. I love to read ham
radio magazines, or use to. I use to enjoy CW and 73.. I won't renew
either. I find that MUCH (not all) of what in them is garbage. Many of
the regular columns are written off the top of the author's heads and
read about the same. I must have missed a significant part of my Ham
career because I just am not in love with Baluns, don't like to read
about them.. but most of CQ in the last year is about baluns. The packet
section is a bunch of bunko.

I may not be interested in everything or anything in a few QST issues in
a row, but get my money's worth from the league on the magazine alone. I
think the publication is a lot more professional and much more time and
effort goes into. Much of the CQ and 73 is of lower quality writing. I
think a given author can spend an hour on an article for 73 or CQ that
wouldn't come close to being published in QST.

I liked QST so much that it became a goal to get something in the
magazine. If I had my choice of spending 3-6 months developing an
article QST is always my first choice for getting it published.

Now don't get me wrong... there is a LOT of GOOD stuff in CQ and 73..
but not anywhere near as regular as in QST.

Well thems my opinion... should learn to keep my mouth shut..but somehow
the little dig about QST really got my goat.

72

Jeff, AC4HF

From [e-mail]  Mon Nov  8 16:29:28 1993
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    id AA05407 for [e-mail]; Mon, 8 Nov 93 16:28:55 -0500
    id AA365904 ; Mon, 08 Nov 93 16:12:03 EST
Date: Mon, 08 Nov 93 21:16:54 GMT
Message-Id: <20689@jek>
From: [e-mail] (Jim Kearman)
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Anyone know this guy?

>From [e-mail] Mon Nov 08 21:07:07 1993
    id AA20675 ; Mon, 08 Nov 93 21:07:05 GMT
>From [e-mail]. Mon Nov 08 15:55:36 1993
    id AA01807 for poparrl; Mon, 8 Nov 93 16:04:35 -0500
    (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA14022; Mon, 8 Nov 93 16:04:23 -0500
    (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0owdUp-0004bZC; Mon, 8 Nov 93 15:47 EST
    id N95700W Mon,  8 Nov 1993 19:25:23 GMT
From: [e-mail] (WILDCAT.MAILROOM)
Subject: QRP In Sweepstakes
Date: Mon,  8 Nov 1993 18:43:53 GMT
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]

Original To: BOB BERLYN
Original Subject: QRP In Sweepstakes

From: [e-mail] (Jim Kearman)
Subject: QRP In Sweepstakes
Date: Mon, 08 Nov 93 14:43:53 GMT
To: bob.berlyn
Message-Id: <20541@jek>

The user "BOB BERLYN" does not exist at CHOWDA.SBS.COM



From [e-mail]  Mon Nov  8 16:59:36 1993
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    id AA29456; Mon, 8 Nov 93 16:59:16 EST
    id AA15705; Mon, 8 Nov 93 16:59:43 EST
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 93 16:59:43 EST
From: [e-mail] (Doug Snowden)
Message-Id: <9311082159.AA15705@pd2>
To: [e-mail], [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  qrp in general

I'm in the process of building a cw/ssb transceiver designed by w7zoi. I
think it is from qst a year or two ago. I'll see you on ssb when I get it
built (if ever).  Along those lines, it has an I.F. amplifier by NEC. The
exact type I can't remember (NEC 99 something). Anyway, any of you QRPers
know where I can get NEC parts? Not just for this, but future projects also.
Seems like this group is mainly related to operating rather than building???

    Regarding the SS contest. I did as poorly as any. I got on 20 meters
cw and produced 14 contacts with 3 watts.

    Doug, N4IJ

From [e-mail]  Mon Nov  8 17:36:09 1993
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          8 Nov 93 14:36 PST
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: qrp in general
Date: Mon, 08 Nov 1993 14:35:59 -0800
From: Clark Savage Turner WA3JPG <[e-mail]>
Message-Id:  <[e-mail]>

Duane (WB9OMC) asks about QRP SSB or FM work.....

Just to mention, I am a fairly active QRP SSB guy, and I mostly ragchew
over on 40 meters.  I have occasionally gotten into the local DX WAS
nets on 40 and 75 to net the awards, but love to talk more than exchange
reports (but the exchanging reports is fine work too).

I have been working the Aussies and that area fairly regularly on 40 SSB
with about 5 watts PEP SSB in the evenings, but the latest Santa Ana winds
(that burned a lot of us out down here) took some of my wires down.  I am
a little underactive for the time being.

Just netted an old Argonaut 505 and will fire up that baby with a lantern
battery when I get it.  Listen for me around 7200-7245 after 0400 UTC.

Clark
WA3JPG

From [e-mail]  Mon Nov  8 17:36:57 1993
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    id AA23645; Mon, 8 Nov 93 14:37:00 -0800
    id AA29581; Mon, 8 Nov 93 14:35:02 -0800
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 93 14:35:02 -0800
From: [e-mail] (Mark Cronenwett)
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: QRP in general



    Well, Duane I am one that is working on that very subject (SSB)  I
    need a radio that I can leave in my Jeep that people would not even
    think of taking.  I have some neat things to try, and I even have
    most of the parts.  This is just a bad time of year for me to start
    building.  If you have any ideas that you would like to share, or
    want to see mine, just give me a holler.  Anybody else have any
    QRP SSB designs that I could use?  How about plans?  I need lots 'o
    help here.

    27, Mark


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From [e-mail]  Mon Nov  8 17:38:23 1993
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    id AA24863; Mon, 8 Nov 93 17:38:35 EST
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 93 17:38:35 EST
From: [e-mail] (Ron Majewski)
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: another SS story


Hello to everyone on the list!

I'm still riding the contest excitement and it's after 5pm, so I thought
I'd join in and share my contest experience.

CW contests are always a blast!  It's a great opportunity to move my
code speed up a few notches.  I also enjoy listening and going to school
on the big boys as they smoothly rack up contact after contact.  Class
is in session for the next 24hrs!  :)

I am in the process of getting a station set up for my younger brother
who has relocated to American Samoa for two years, so I ran the rig as he will --
100w with an R7 antenna mounted 5ft off the ground in the backyard.
(I know -- Boo!  Hiss!)  I wanted to get a feel for how the station played
under battle conditions.  I was very favorably impressed with the R7 performance
on the contest bands. I could work anything I could hear, 95% of the time on
the first call.

My operating approach was to start at the top of the extra portion and
tune upward, working each station in turn.  In the end, I made 112 contacts
in 54 sections over the course of 5hrs of operation.  40mtrs was really hot
Saturday night -- I worked Puerto Rico and six Californians.  I used k8cc's
NA software to do the logging, but sent and received by hand
(Chuck -- I had the pen in my sending hand at all times!).

I only had two stations give me a precedence of "Q" -- ad6t and w0hep.

I also worked w6isq -- John Troster of QST fame.  He was in the 700's as
far as QSO's go.

A very enjoyable test at my QTH.  Just wait until next year ...

73!

Ron (wb8ruq).






From [e-mail]  Mon Nov  8 17:58:57 1993
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    for @sgi.sgi.com:[e-mail] id AA02560; Mon, 8 Nov 93 16:58:46 -0600
    for @sgidal.dallas.sgi.com:[e-mail] id AA02984; Mon, 8 Nov 93 16:58:45 -0600
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 93 16:58:45 -0600
From: [e-mail] (Charles Adams)
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: SSB Construction




Duane, WB9OMC, writes inquiring about SSB and FM projects.

Yes, it seems like we all love CW, but that's just not true.
The problem with SSB and FM is the increased cost and complexity
of design, parts counts, PC boards, and on and on goes the list.
Rumor has it that several people are working on getting kits out,
but they just might be too expensive for the average QRPer.
Money is always an object it seems.

CW only rigs are easy to design and fast to build.  If people
can compete against the price of a used ICOM, KENWOOD, YAESU,
or whatever, then we might see some interest gained in this
area.  Doug DeMaw in his book, in the last few chapters, talks
about DSB generation, but the elimination of one sideband is
another topic.

Time will tell on this issue.

73 de k5fo  dit  dit
SIG
------cut here----------
Chuck Adams, K5FO - CP60
[e-mail]
QRP ARCI Awards Chairman




From [e-mail]  Mon Nov  8 18:05:00 1993
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    id m0owfbO-0000tGC; Mon, 8 Nov 93 18:02 EST
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
From: [e-mail] (Andrew Sargent N8OFS)
Subject: test posting...
To: [e-mail] (qrp )
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1993 18:02:22 -0500 (EST)
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This is a test posting to see if I can make the reflector...

--
Tell Me Something I Don't Know,           ! HAM    =       N8OFS
Show Me Something I Can Use,              ! ARMY MARS = AAN5HJT
Push The Buttons,                         ! CB =        THE NEON KNIGHT
Connect The God-Damn Dots!!!  -  Ministry ! HACKER =    TH3 N30N KN16Ht

From [e-mail]  Mon Nov  8 18:26:26 1993
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    id AA24422; Mon, 8 Nov 93 15:26:19 PST
    id AA00905; Mon, 8 Nov 93 15:27:35 PST
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 93 15:27:35 PST
From: [e-mail] (Ray Anderson)
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: NEC parts source


Doug, N4IJ writes:

>I'm in the process of building a cw/ssb transceiver designed by w7zoi. I
>think it is from qst a year or two ago. I'll see you on ssb when I get it
>built (if ever).  Along those lines, it has an I.F. amplifier by NEC. The
>exact type I can't remember (NEC 99 something). Anyway, any of you QRPers
>know where I can get NEC parts? Not just for this, but future projects also.
>Seems like this group is mainly related to operating rather than building???

>    Regarding the SS contest. I did as poorly as any. I got on 20 meters
>cw and produced 14 contacts with 3 watts.

>    Doug, N4IJ


    Regarding the source for NEC parts, I've had good luck with
CEL (California Eastern Labs) who is NEC's US distributor.

Their main phone # is [phone] in Santa Clara, Calif. Down in
4-land you might try [phone] in Norcross, GA or [phone] in
St. Petersburg, FL.

    Don't know what their policy is these days on small quantity
orders but I bought in quantities of 10-20 before with no problem. They
also seem to be pretty liberal with their samples... especially if they
sense a bigger order.. Good luck.

    BTW: No, I don't work for NEC or CEL or have stock in the company.
Just a user of their products.


    Ray WB6TPU

    [e-mail]

From [e-mail]  Mon Nov  8 18:41:29 1993
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   Mon, 08 Nov 93 18:41:04 EST
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 93 15:40:44 PST
From: [e-mail]
To: [e-mail]
Subject:  SSB & FM QRP

Duane writes:
> I have the distinct feeling that most of y'all are dedicated CW QRPers.
> (and most of the construction projects I see are CW related)
> Anybody out there doing SSB or FM QRP work?

I am very interested in doing qrp ssb and fm.  I'm working on one project
using the DDS VFO from the 73 mag Techno Whizzy articles to build a general
coverage CW/SSB/AM(?) tranceiver.

Another project I'd like to do is a very tiny vhf fm repeater.  Small enough
and cheap enough to attach to a few helium party balloons.

Progress is real slow, I gotta work for a living too and these are sort of
ambitious projects.  Oh well...


73,
mont - km6wt,


From [e-mail]  Mon Nov  8 20:05:47 1993
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    id AA00118; Mon, 8 Nov 93 20:05:41 -0500
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 93 20:05:41 -0500
From: [e-mail] (James R. Johns)
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
Posted-From: The MITRE Corporation, Bedford, MA
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Hambrew

I received a copy of Hambrew in today's mail.  At first glance it looks
a lot like Sprat in size and paper/print format.  While it is produced
in black and white, the quality of the photos is excellent with sharp
contrast.  It is 48 pages in length (counting the front and back covers)
and while not "super technical" offers material on everything from
antennas to balloon telemetry to a simple 30 Meter QRP transmitter.
For $20 a year, if they can continue to collect good material from
the ham community, it should be worth the investment.  My approach
to value assessment may be a bit different than some others on the net.
I figure that if I can get just one good idea or bit of new technical
knowledge from any seminar or magazine then that investment was worth
the cost of admission.  If anyone is interested in the table-of-contents
drop me an Email and I'll type it into the computer and Email it out.

73 & 72

Jim Johns  KA0IQT
[e-mail]

The comments above represent my opinions and I have no association with
the magazine except as an interested reader.


From [e-mail]  Mon Nov  8 22:13:51 1993
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          8 Nov 93 19:13 PST
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: SSB & FM QRP
Date: Mon, 08 Nov 1993 19:13:39 -0800
From: Clark Savage Turner WA3JPG <[e-mail]>
Message-Id:  <[e-mail]>

Ahhh... on the focus of SSB / FM construction... Chuck is right, the
darned price, complexity and availability limitations are big.  The
latest project I have seen that excited me was the KK7B (Campbell)
R2/T2 project.  Takes a looooong time to get the boards, but they
are real nice.  Makes the SSB transceiver a possibility for me on
my workbench.  I am very slowly aggregating parts, and looking for
partners for this project (even if at long distance).

And, on the horizon, MFJ is talking about SSB QRP transceivers coming
soon, and even Ramsey promises a SSB/CW transceiver kit (for "less
than $300"......) soon.  We'll see.  I wonder if we could convince
Ten Tec to try to work their way into this market - they have the
experience and knowledge, but have rarely done well in price
competition.

Clark
WA3JPG

From [e-mail]  Mon Nov  8 22:51:08 1993
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    id m0owk4z-0000jPC; Mon, 8 Nov 93 22:49 EST
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
From: [e-mail] (Andrew Sargent N8OFS)
Subject: Need qrp Schematics (please)
To: [e-mail] (qrp )
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1993 22:49:17 -0500 (EST)
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Hello group or gang,

I have a copy of the colorburst xtal qrp xmiter and the 2m qrp
xtal xmiter using 72 Mhz rocks.

I want more schematics and paperwork for qrp rigs.  I gave a copy
of the above mentioned qrp rigs to K8TV (the pres of a local club)
and he was so impressed he built the colorburst rig in 10 minutes
while I was standing there and had it working (he didn't work anybody
though).

Anyway, please, please, please send me schematics and directions of
qrp rigs all of us can build.  This is a good way to get No-Coders
to build something rather than talk on their HTX-202's without knowing
the first thing about RF!

I'll try to send a copy of the newsletter with the rig in it to the
orrigionator or sender.

Damn, I'm long winded...
--
Tell Me Something I Don't Know,           ! HAM    =       N8OFS
Show Me Something I Can Use,              ! ARMY MARS = AAN5HJT
Push The Buttons,                         ! CB =        THE NEON KNIGHT
Connect The God-Damn Dots!!!  -  Ministry ! HACKER =    TH3 N30N KN16Ht

From [e-mail]  Tue Nov  9 00:12:29 1993
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    id AA04866; Mon, 8 Nov 93 19:12:18 HST
    id AA15963; Mon, 8 Nov 93 19:12:16 HST
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 93 19:12:16 HST
From: Jeff Herman <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: projects 1-10
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>


This is embarrassing to ask: I have deleted all 10 projects that I earlier
posted (gad, all that work!). If any of you have saved them would you please
send me any and all? I am constantly getting requests for them.

Thanks so much.

Jeff NH6IL

From [e-mail]  Tue Nov  9 00:41:55 1993
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    id AA23804; Tue, 9 Nov 93 00:41:54 EST for [e-mail]
From: Brian Paul Wilde <[e-mail]>
    id AA76665; Tue, 9 Nov 1993 00:41:50 -0500 for [e-mail]
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1993 00:41:50 -0500
Message-Id: <9311090541.AA76665@localhost>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Unsubscribe


Please unsubscribe me from this listserver.

Thanks, and 73's

Brian Wilde
N2OWD

From [e-mail]  Tue Nov  9 01:51:49 1993
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    id AA14176; Mon, 8 Nov 93 20:51:44 HST
    id AA19401; Mon, 8 Nov 93 20:51:42 HST
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 93 20:51:42 HST
From: Jeff Herman <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: just projects 1-4
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>


Sorry! I just recovered projects 5-10 on r.r.a.homebrew - I had  put
extra long expiration dates on those articles. Just need 1-4: Let's
see, #1 was a 40M xmtr, #2 was a 20M xmtr, #3 was 15M?? and I guess
#4 was for 80M??

Jeff NH6IL

From [e-mail]  Tue Nov  9 06:32:21 1993
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Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
          Tue, 9 Nov 1993 3:31:49 -0800 (PST)
Date: 9 Nov 1993 06:30:09 +0000
From: "Bob Scott" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Hambrew
To: "QRP" <[e-mail]>

                      Hambrew
Received my copy yesterday.  I just had time to skim it, but I have to admit
being a little disappointed.  I will withhold final judgement for a couple of
issues.
73
Bob
AC4QO



From [e-mail]  Tue Nov  9 07:55:09 1993
          9 Nov 93 7:55 EST
    id AA16870; Tue, 9 Nov 93 07:55:03 EST
Posted-Date: Tue, 9 Nov 93 07:55:00 EST
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    id AA09666; Tue, 9 Nov 93 07:55:00 EST
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 93 07:55:00 EST
From: [e-mail]
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: RE:Hambrew

Sorry to leave everyone on the edge of their seats.  Here is the table of
contents for Hambrew.

Leters                                                 4
Kit Review: The Ramsey 30 Meter Transmitter            5
Zapp The DX With The Zapper                            7
Variable Bandpass Audio Filter                        12
Wires And Pliers: Voltage Regulator                   15
New Products                                          16
The NorthWest QRP Club "30-30" CW Transmitter         18
Edge Of Space Sciences: Homebrew Aloft!               20
Foamcore Enclosure Construction                       21
Ballon Telemetry Engine                               23
Counterpoise And The Antenna                          32
Practical Antenna Applications: Parallel Dipoles      33
The Two-Wheelers' Highway Headset With Handlebar PTT  35
Shack Shots                                           45
Classified Ads                                        46

I was a little disappointed in the magazine's contents but I have no
right to complain since mine came for free.  Since the magazine is
only published quarterly, $5 per issue seems pretty steep (but then
again I'm a graduate student, not a high paid engineer).

I should mention that of the 48 pages, encluding the cover, there are
less that 40 that actually have articles.

One positive note, subscribers may post one 15 word ad per issue that
is free of charge.  25 cents for each extra word.

I think my money was better spent buying some of the QRP books from
the ARRL.

Bob
N4AHB

From [e-mail]  Tue Nov  9 08:06:57 1993
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    id AA26876; Tue, 9 Nov 93 08:06:54 -0500
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 93 08:06:54 -0500
From: [e-mail] (James R. Johns)
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
Posted-From: The MITRE Corporation, Bedford, MA
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Hambrew Table of Contents

Since several have asked for the table of contents for hambrew
magazine, I decided to post it to the group.  Any typos or other
errors are probably mine.

Hambrew Vol 1, No 1 Autumn 1993

Contents

Letters
Kit Review: The Ramsey 30 Meter Transmitter
Zap the DX With The Zapper
Variable Bandpass Audio Filter
Wires and Pliers: Voltage Regulator
New Products
The NorthWest QRP Club "30-30" CW Transmitter
Edge of Space Sciences: Homebrew Aloft!
Foamcore Enclosure Construction
Balloon Telemetry Engine
Counterpoise and the Antenna
Practical Antenna Applications: Parallel Dipoles
The Two-Wheelers' Highway Headset with Handlebar PTT
Shack Shots
Classified Ads


Hambrew - Published by Smoking Pencil & Co.
P.O. Box 260083
Lakewood, CO  80226-0083
Ads & Subscriptions 1-800-5HAMRIG
Editorial Office 303-989-5642

Published Quarterly




Hope this helps.  73 & 72

James R. Johns  KA0IQT
[e-mail]

I have no association with Hambrew other than as a reader of the magazine and
any opinions expressed are my own.



From [e-mail]  Tue Nov  9 09:29:34 1993
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    id AA04798; Tue, 9 Nov 93 09:29:29 -0500
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 93 09:29:29 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Duane P Mantick)
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: vocal qrp


Thanks to everyone who responded on the issue of voice QRP.

It does sound like there is some interest out there, so let's stay tuned
to that - it also sounds like there may be some kits forthcoming to
meet that interest.

Another thorny question - has anyone ever done a CB-to-10M modification
of something low powered for use as SSB QRP?  Seems like an idea that has
potential.....

I'm also curious to find out what sort of antennas a lot of y'all are
using, and what kind of feedline (especially the feedline) you use to
keep feed losses down.

From playing around with my HR2510 it does seem all too obvious that
getting a good match between radio and feedline and from feedline to
antenna makes a BIG world of difference.

Being an apartment dweller, I am sort of "stuck" with certain rules
about what I can and can't do.  I'm sure a lot of other folks have run
into this "limited choice" scenario as well. Running QRP, or perhaps
to satisfy the purists, a reduced power level (e.g., <25 watts) allows
us to make use of more kinds of things as antennas, and at the same
time the lessening of power may ease some of the TVI problems.

Thoughts?

Duane


From [e-mail]  Tue Nov  9 09:30:15 1993
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 <[e-mail]>; Tue, 9 Nov 1993 08:31:07 CST
Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1993 08:31:07 -0600 (CST)
From: "JEFF M. GOLD" <[e-mail]>
Subject: NorCal 40
To: [e-mail]
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Yeah,

finally got my kit last night.  Tell ya guys and gals.. I am imressed.
Wish I could get this group to move to Tenn. I would give anything to
have a QRP group here.

The case and silk screened board looked better than some of the so
called professional. The docs were real nice (except for the part id
sheet). I was originally going to build this for a local new ham (who I
have already loaned a whole QRP set up).. may have to keep this.. can't
believe how small it is.. just happen to have a nice labelling machine
at work also.

Thanks guys.. sure glad that a hick from the sticks in Tenn. is able to
be part of the NorCal group.. may have to plan a family vacation out
there and then head for Oregon.. hard part would be bringing all my kits
and arranging it so I get to attend a real QRP club meeting.

What about it guys.. Tennessee is a great place to live.

72

Jeff, AC4HF

From [e-mail]  Tue Nov  9 09:48:04 1993
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          9 Nov 93 9:42 EST
    id AA05680; Tue, 9 Nov 93 09:39:50 EST
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 93 09:39:50 EST
From: [e-mail]
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  Video
Cc: [e-mail]

>If I had a video camera, which I don't, I would make a QRP video.
>
>I would include descriptions of the latest models of rigs.
>I would particularly show the insides of the rigs.
>I would show a kit under construction.
>I would show a homebrew rig under construction.
>I would show operating procedures.
>And I would show and describe the various publications available.
>I would take my video camera to Field Day and show that too.
>I might also interview famous QRP people at the Dayton hamfest.
>
>I would then make about 100 copies of the video and sell them
>at hamfests.  I would also sell them to subscribers of this QRP mailing list.
>If those 100 go quickly, I would make more copies and put ads out.
>I wouldn't do it to make money, I would do it to inform people about QRP.
>
>But I don't have a video camera.
>Maybe someone else will be inspired to make "QRP - The Video".
>Then I could just buy a copy.
>
>73,
>
>Jim, WD9EYB
>
I would then send it to ARRL so that W1AW could broadcast it out to the
world using QRP SSTV.  Or even QRP WBTV on whatever mm band we're allowed
to do that on, if any.

I would include interviews with the best and worst dressed QRPers (men only -
we would want to keep it clean!).

I would include interviews with the shortest and tallest QRPers known to
exist.  They would stand side by side, perhaps with the shortest one
standing on a stack of ARRL Handbooks so that they are on the same level.
For humor, the interview could be conducted next to a tower, with the
interviewer standing one or two rungs up, holding on with one hand, and
using the other to hold the extension mike up to Chuck's mouth and whoever
else is the short guy.

Someone lend Jim a video camera (I don't have one, either), and go for it,
Jim!

72,
Kalman (not tall, not short, dressed from Sears and K-Mart, and otherwise
        totally unremarkable) #: }

------------------------------
Kalman Laudon WD6CZI in 2 land
<[e-mail]>
------------------------------


From [e-mail]  Tue Nov  9 09:48:22 1993
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From: Bruce Walker <[e-mail]>
    id AA04855; Tue, 9 Nov 93 09:48:33 EST
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 93 09:48:33 EST
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To: [e-mail]
Subject: list volume
Content-Length: 958

A number of you have complained (or left the list) about the QRP list
volume, which like all discussion lists, goes in spurts.  Several
present and past subscribers have suggested a digest subscription,
where those who wanted to would receive only one piece of mail per day
containing all the day's QRP messages.  Those who would like to
continue to receive messages as they come in would be able to do so.

I have decided to do this, and I am currently evaluating which of
several possible software approaches to use.  This might not happen
for several weeks, since I am going on vacation late next week.

I just wanted to let those who are bothered by the number of messages
per day to know that relief will be on the way by the end of the year.
Please don't tell me yet whether you want digests or piecemeal mail;
I'll send out an announcement when it's available.

Thanks to Paul, KD6LAA, who even suppled some scripts to do the
digests.

--bruce
  WT1M

From [e-mail]  Tue Nov  9 10:55:57 1993
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Had a blast in time available.Got in about 8 hours with 209 Qs and 63
sections. Don't know if I just didn't spend enough time, its the general
decline in propagation with the cycle, or it was the weekend just didn't
have good propagation (I been going too many different directions lately to
keep up) but my section count seems low relative to past years. Did notice
that KH2/N6OP was not booming in as in previous years and KL7 was weak
also. Ten meters also not good for much here. Saturday evening the rate
really went down with the MUF but on Sunday was able to hit stretches of
40/hour. With a G5RV at 25 ft and 5 watts I know its tough copy so think
there are some really first class operators out there that spent the time
to dig me out.

72, Greg KD4HZ
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From [e-mail]  Tue Nov  9 11:18:23 1993
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Subject: qrp-request
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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 93 11:18:06 EST
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NAME: TERRY MURPHY
CALL: AB4VJ
EMAIL: [e-mail]
QRP RIG(S): HT40/ASSORTED HOME BREW
QRP FAVORITES: WIRE ANTENNAS, DXING
COMMENTS: VERY INTERESTED IN HALLICRAFTER AND BOAT ANCHORS

THANKS
TERRY DE AB4VJ


From [e-mail]  Tue Nov  9 11:21:08 1993
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    id AA24939; Tue, 9 Nov 93 10:21:03 CST
    id AA05832; 4.1/CRI-5.6; Tue, 9 Nov 93 10:21:01 CST
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 93 10:21:01 CST
From: [e-mail] (David Adams)
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  SSB Construction

[e-mail] (Charles Adams) escribio':


>The problem with SSB and FM is the increased cost and complexity
>of design, parts counts, PC boards, and on and on goes the list.
>Rumor has it that several people are working on getting kits out,
>but they just might be too expensive for the average QRPer.

Well now what about these radio on a chip designs that put almost
all of the parts for a radio reciever or transmitter on a single
cmos chip, with FM modulation to boot!?!  A minimum of external
parts is required.  (A ceramic filter, a couple of coils, a few
capacitors, a few resistors, & such.)

Also, is Motorola the only company making such things?  I certainly
doubt it.  Almost any radio you look in these days seems to be made
this way.
                                                ______
Sourdough and Ham  KG0IO/AE               |   |  |
                                               |   |  |  obten comida,
--David C. Adams    [e-mail]            |   |  |  y sal de aqui!
  Statistician                                  \____/
  Cray Research Inc.                            (____)
                                                .:. .
                                                . .  :.

From [e-mail]  Tue Nov  9 11:21:53 1993
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          Nov 1993 10:21:12 CST
          10:19:49 GMT-5
From: "Kevin Anderson" <[e-mail]>
Organization:  Augustana College - Rock Island IL
To: [e-mail]
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1993 10:19:31 GMT-500
Subject: Re: SSB & FM QRP --> CM Howes kits
Priority: normal
X-Mailer:     PMail v3.0 (R1a)
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>

Clark, WA3JPG, wrote [stuff deleted]:
>
> And, on the horizon, MFJ is talking about SSB QRP transceivers coming
> soon, and even Ramsey promises a SSB/CW transceiver kit (for "less
> than $300"......) soon.  We'll see.  I wonder if we could convince
> Ten Tec to try to work their way into this market - they have the
> experience and knowledge, but have rarely done well in price
> competition.
>

I am aware of CW/SSB transceiver kits made by CM Howes (UK)
and sold here in the states by Townsend Electronics, Box
415, 133 N. 1st STreet, Pierceton Indiana 46562, 1-800-944-
3661.

They market a 10&15m dual band SSB/CW transceiver capable of
3 to 10 watts PEP depending upon voltage.  They market a
80/160 DSB/AM/CW transceiver also capable of the same ranges
of power I believe.  Kit prices are $299.95 and $239.95
respectively.

Townsend also just started carrying Walford Electronics kits
(also UK).  One page insert suggests a 160m DSB transceiver,
3 to 10 W PEP (12 to 25 volts) for $134.95, a 80m SSB
transceiver, 10 to 35 watts PEP (12 to 25 volts) for
$239.95, and an 80/20m SSB transceiver, 12 to 40 W PEP (12
to 25 volts), for $399.95

I don't know if this is what everyone is looking for, but
here is some options.

(I do not own any stocks or products or Townsend, Howes, or
Walford -- just have some literature).

72 de Kevin, KB9IUA
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Kevin L. Anderson,     Geography Dept.,     Augustana College
Rock Island, Illinois   61201   USA     phone: [phone]
e-mail: [e-mail]  or [e-mail]
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From [e-mail]  Tue Nov  9 13:01:10 1993
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    id AA08858; Tue, 9 Nov 93 13:01:25 -0500
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 93 13:48:52 -0400
From: [e-mail] (CONTRACTOR Larry Keith;WR-ALC/653 CCSG/SCDD)
Subject: More NICAD Packs
To: [e-mail]

Well, I thought I got rid of all the NiCad battery packs.  But, as I gathered
some stuff together for the Lawrenceville hamfest, I found a dozen or so that
I had tucked away in a special corner.  So, if you need some, here's the deal.

These are military surplus NiCad packs, used..  There are 20 D-Cells in the
pack.  They are set up as four 6-volt packs with some circuit that displays
the number of hours of charge left when you push a button on the panel.  The
packs are in a metal case.. Obviously, this thing plugged into something
using the connector (weird type) on the back of the case.  Size is slightly
smaller than a shoebox.  Forgot the weight but it takes 6 or 7 bucks to UPS
them..

Tell you what I'm gonna do!  For $15.00, I will ship you one.  For $60.00, I
will ship you five of these beauties.  I think that will cover my shipping
costs and add a few bucks to the 'New Rig Fund."

Anybody interested?  Will consider trades......... What have you got?

73,


Larry, KQ4BY

From [e-mail]  Tue Nov  9 13:39:09 1993
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    id AA10587; Tue, 9 Nov 93 13:32:59 EST
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 93 13:32:59 EST
From: [e-mail] (Edward Pacyna)
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: uunet!Think.COM![e-mail]
Subject: Re:SSB
Cc: [e-mail]

Come on guys. SSB transceivers are not any more complex than CW rigs. Shown
below is a SSB transceiver that I built for 20M. A CW transceiver would elimi-
nate the balanced modulator and mike pre-amp but would require the addition
of a sidetone, T/R off-set and a keying circuit (note: the BFO would now be
directly connected to the Tx mixer vs through the IF ). The transceiver was
built on a 6"W x 5"D PCB.
                                                ________Audio Der.______
                                               |          AGC           |
                                               |                        |
  Double Tuned____Rx Mixer____9 MHz Xtal____IF Amp____Prod. Det.____AF Amp_Spkr
      BPF          MC1496       Filter      MC1350     MC1496       LM386
       |             |            |            |          |
 Ant. Relay      5Mhz VFO         |            |         BFO
       |             |            |            |          |
 Low Pass Fil.    Tx Mixer________|            |_____Bal. Mod.___Pre Amp__Mike
       |           MC1496                              MC1496
       |             |
    Pwr Amp     Double Tuned
    IRF511          BPF
       |             |
     Driver_______Pre Amp
    MOS Fet       MRF 211

Unless your talking real primal radio (e.g. crystal controled transmitters
and direct conversion / super regen. receivers), a basic single converstion
SSB transceiver is no more complex to build than a CW transceiver.

73

Ed W1AAZ


From [e-mail]  Tue Nov  9 14:32:24 1993
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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 93 9:32:11 HST
From: Jeff Herman <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: projects 1-4
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>


Let there be no doubt as to the HUGE readership of this list!! My mailbox
was flooded with copies of those qrp projects. You guys are great!
If any new readers want copies of these cheap, easy to built  QRP
transmitters send me a note and I'll pass along the circuits.

JEFF NH6IL

From [e-mail]  Tue Nov  9 15:24:55 1993
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  (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for <[e-mail]>); Tue, 9 Nov 1993 15:22:38 -0500
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1993 15:22:38 -0500
From: Brad Mitchell <[e-mail]>
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: artwork for nn1g-II/norcal 40

Thanks to all that responded about the artwork for these rigs.

I guess we have the NN1G rig covered.  One of the fellows in our local
club (Brockport Amateur radio club) got the
artwork for the NN1G-II rig directly from NN1G himself.  I guess that they
talked, probably at some ungodley code speed about the project during ss, and
NN1G
sent a package out that day.  Wow! So, we will probably build a few evaluation
units, and if all works out well, maybe present this as a club project, once
the 50 or 60 spiders are completed. ( I made 2 spiders, working on the third).

    73 all, and thanks.
    Brad WB8YGG

P.S. the artwork is nice and small!

From [e-mail]  Tue Nov  9 16:24:38 1993
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Date:     Tue, 9 Nov 93 14:12:58 EST
From: Clark Fishman (FSAC-FCD) <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Cc: [e-mail]
Subject:  QRP Info
Message-Id:  <[e-mail]>



With everyone saying how difficult and complex SSB
equipment is to build and how expensive....I say
not really....I have found several SSB filters
at hamfests for $5 and $10 and am now building up
a few of the R2 and T2 boards.  I am including
a list of some catalogs and data books that have
all kinds of interesting IC's for making radios.
This is the best of times for building, lots of
the work has already been done by the IC manufacture.


He is some of my library:


  GEC Plessey

Sequoira Research Park
1500 Green Hills Road
Scotts Valley, CA  95066
phone [phone]
fax [phone]...........Two handbooks: Professional Products
                                          IC handbook

                               and :Consumer IC Handbook

-------------------------------


Motorola Semiconductor
Marketing Headquarters
5005 E. McDowell Road
Phoenix AZ 85008
phone [phone]
fax [phone]

Four Books:  RF Devices Data Volume l

             RF Devices Data Volume ll

             CMOS Applications-Specific Standard ICs

             Motorola Linear and Interface ICs


---------------------------------



Philips Semiconductors   (use to be Signetics now combined as
                          Philips)
811 East Arques Aven
Sunnyvale CA 94088
phone [phone]


one book...It's a goodie... RF/Wireless Communications


Chew one those puppies for a while....

Clark Fishman WA2UNN         [e-mail]


Live long and keep your soldering hot....real hot


From [e-mail]  Tue Nov  9 17:01:59 1993
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Date:     Tue, 9 Nov 93 17:00:01 EST
From: Clark Fishman (FSAC-FCD) <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Cc: [e-mail]
Subject:  Attn: Jeff
Message-Id:  <[e-mail]>

I could not reach Jeff Herman directly....
I would like a copy of the QRP transmitters...

tnx WA2UNN  Clark Fishman   [e-mail]

From [e-mail]  Tue Nov  9 19:18:36 1993
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    id AA18914; Tue, 9 Nov 93 14:18:28 HST
    id AA23838; Tue, 9 Nov 93 14:18:28 HST
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 93 14:18:27 HST
From: Jeff Herman <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: QRP projects
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>

Stupid me! I put out a general call for those who wanted these projects
only to get a flooded mailbox again (twice in one day). So, please allow
me to send them over the net in two batches. What follows are the first
four transmitters (projects 1-4). I'll wait until tomorrow to send the
second batch (projects 5-10). New projects will follow from time to time
(next up is another 15 meter xmtr - this weekend).

Jeff NH6IL
*******************************************************************
Subject: Projects 1 - 4
Subject: PROJECT 1: 40M QRP XMTR

Hi Gang,
   Here is the first of many very SIMPLE QRP transmitters. I make no
claims to their performance! In the next few weeks I'll give you xmtrs
for 80, 40, 20, and 2 meters; most requiring 3 or less transistors.
The circuits come from 2 out-of-print ham projects books (c. 1968) so
I will assume there will be no copyright problems.
   Project 1 is a simple 40 meter xmtr; it should only take 15 minutes
to build it (if you've got the parts). I wasn't able to draw the symbol
for each part on this terminal, so I put the part number in it's
place. Hope you don't mind... Note that the case of Q1 should be
grounded. Here's the text for this project, taken from "101 EASY
HAM RADIO PROJECTS"  by Robert M. Brown, k2zsq/w9hbf and Tom Kneital,
k2aes/wb2aai:

   "Want to really shake up your next contact? Just tell him you are
using this one-transistor CW rig! Most Novices and other hams shy
away from these little gems thinking they are hopelessly underpowered.
Not so! More than 50 contacts - all located over 75 miles distant -
have been logged with this rig connected to the backyard longwire!
   "Construction is quite simple and, in fact, there is not much to
say about it. Reason: there isn't very little that can go wrong!
   "L1 should be adjusted for maximum deflection on an FSM as the
key is depressed. Crystal should be a fundamental frequency type
for 40-meter operation."

Parts list:

C1   68 pF capacitor
C2   .015 uF capacitor
C3   10 pF capacitor
L1   25 turns of No. 26 enameled wire wound on a 3/8 in. slug-
     tuned form (National XR-91 or equiv.)
M1   4.5 volt battery
M2   40-meter fundamental freq. crystal
Q1   GE-9 transistor
R1   91K resistor


--------M2--------*----------*-----------*----------C3-----------ANT.
|                 |          |           |
|                 |          |           |
|                 C          C1          L1
*--------------B Q1          |           |
|                 E          |           |
|                 |      ----*------------
|                 |      |   |
R1               GND     |   |
|                       C2   |
|                        |   |
|                       GND  |
|                            |
-----------------------------*---------_M1+---KEY-------GND


That's it! Note that GND = ground (and note the polarity of M1).
For Q1, I've labelled its leads B = base, C = collector, E = emitter.
* indicates a junction of 3 or more leads.
Remember, no flames if it doesn't work; I'm just the messanger!
Project 2 will be an 80M VFO QRP xmtr; stay tuned. (Oh yes, there
IS a 2M xmtr on the way).

Jeff, NH6IL

Jeffrey Herman, University of Hawaii Mathematics, [e-mail]
******************************************************************************
Subject: Project 2 - 20 meter QRP CW xmtr

   Here's the second QRP project taken from 101 EASY HAM RADIO PROJECTS,
by Robert Brown and Tom Kneitel; again, since the book is out of print,
I assume there will be no copyright problems...
   This project is a simple 20 meter CW xmtr with output about 100 mw (?).
Here are the authors' comments:
   "If you have always wanted to try low-power on 20 meters, here is an
excellent method for joining the growing ranks of flea-power addicts -
and doing it inexpensively. This circuit is capable of world-wide QSO's,
given the right conditions and assuming QRM is not present.
   "The transmitter uses a pair of GE-1 universal replacement transistors
in a unique circuit configuration a great more sophisticated than you
would normally expect for an under-one-watt rig. Crystal can be a
fundamental 14-mHz type.
   "L1 should be adjusted for sure-fire oscillation every time the
key is depressed. C4 is simply adjusted for maximum output on the FSM."

PARTS LIST:

C!, C2     .02 uF capacitors
C3, C5     .002 uF capacitors
C4         51 pF variable capacitor
L1         38 turns of No. 22 enameled wire on a 1/2 in. diameter
           slug-tuned form
L2         8 turns of No. 22 enameled wire wound over cold end of L1
L3         Coil, 17 turns of Air Dux 616T (or equiv.) tapped 5 1/2
           turns from cold end
L4, L5     2.5 mH rf choke (National R-100 or equiv.)
M1         1.5 volt dry cell
M2         6 volt battery
M3         14 mHz crystal
Q1, Q2     GE-1 transistors
R1         180 ohm resistor
R2         1.1 megohm resistor

As before, rather than trying to `draw' the symbol for each component,
I've just inserted the part number. Oh, note the polarities of the
batteries M1 and M2.  GND = ground, ANT = antenna, E = emittor,    ANT
C = collector, B = base, KEY = well, this is a CW rig....          |
                                                                   *----
                                                                   |   |
--------*--------     -------------           ----*-----C5--------L3   |
|       |       |    |            |           |   |                |   C4
L4      M3      E-Q1-C            |  GND-E-Q2-C   |                |   |
|       |         |               |         |     |               GND  GND
|       |         B               |         B     L5
* ---  GND        |               |         |     |
|   |             |               |         |     |
|   |             |    ----------------------     |
R2  |             |    |          |               |
|   R1           L1    L2         |               |
GND |             |    |          *---------------*
    |             |    |          |               |
    |           GND   GND         |               |
    |                             *----C2---      C3
    |                             |        |      |
    |                             |        |      |
    ---KEY--*--+M1--GND           ----M2+--*      GND
            |                              |
            |                              |
            C1                            GND
            |
            |
           GND


Note that the collector of Q1 `jumps' over the hot end of L2; this is
the only jump. * = a junction of 3 or more leads.

....  .-  ...-  .   ..-.  ..-  -. !

Jeff, NH6IL

Jeffrey Herman, University of Hawaii Mathematics, [e-mail]
***********************************************************************
Subject: Project 3: 80M xmtr with VFO

Hi Gang:
   An opinion from someone at our law school is not to worry about
any copyright violations; email me for full details.
   This week we have an 80 meter 1/10 watt output xmtr with a VFO!
Not too many of us still have a drawer full of xtals (gave all my
away when I sold my DX-60).
   Construction is pretty straightforward. C5 is the VFO-frequency-
adjust control, while C4 acts as a preset calibrator. Output is
governed by setting of C9.
   It is most important to shield the VFO section entirely (including
Q1); this will prevent hand capacitance from pulling you off frequency.

PARTS LIST

C1      .002 uF cap
C2      500 pF cap
C3      1000 pF cap
C4      15 pF variable cap
C5      51 pF variable cap
C6      100 pF cap
C7, C8  .015 uF cap
C9      76 pF variable cap
C10     .0015 uF cap
L1      57 turns of Air Dux 832 (or equiv.)
L2      35 turns of B&W 3016 (or equiv.)
L3, L4  2.5 mH rf choke (National R-100 or equiv.)
M1      0-15 dc milliammeter
M2      12 volt battery
Q1      2N744 transistor
Q2      2N852 transistor
R1      120K resistor
R2      100K resistor
R3      2.2K resistor
R4      2.4K resistor


--------------------------------------------                       ANT
|                                          |                        |
|                                          |                        |
|                                          |                        |
*----------R3-----------L3                 |                       C10
|                        |                 |                        |
|                        |                 |                        |
R1                       |                 |        --B-Q2-C--------*
|                        |                 |        |    |          |
|                        |                 |        |    E          |
*-------*-------B-Q1-C---*                 |        |    |          |
|       |          |     |                 |        |    |     -----*----
|       |          E     |                 |        |   GND    |        |
|       |          |     |                 |        |          |        |
R2      C1         |     *-------          |--------(-----     |        |
|       |          |     |      |                   |    |     C9      L2
|       |          |     |      |                   |    |     |        |
GND    GND         |    C2      L1                  |    |     |        |
                   |     |      |                   |    |     ----*-----
                   |     |      |                   |    |         |
                   *-----*------(-------C6----------*    |         |
                   |     |      |                   |    |         M1
                   |     |      |                   |    |         |
                  R4     C3     *------            L4    ----------*----|
                   |     |      |     |             |              |    |
                   |     |      |     |             |              |    +
                  GND   GND     C5    C4           GND            C8    M2
                                |     |                            |    |
                                |     |                            |    |
                               GND   GND             -----KEY------*-----
                                                     |             |
                                                     |             |
                                                     *-----C7-------
                                                     |
                                                     |
                                                    GND


Notes: * indicates a junction of 3 leads.  ( indicates a jump. B = base,
C = collector, E = emitter. KEY = manual telegraph key. GND = ground.

Coming attractions: 1 transistor 160 meter xmtr; 3 transistor 2 meter xmtr;
15 meter xmtr; other goodies, too!

....  ...-   ..-.  ..-  -.

Jeff NH6IL   . .

Jeffrey Herman, University of Hawaii Mathematics, [e-mail]
**************************************************************************
Subject: Project 4: 160 meter phone xmtr

Gang:
   Here's the next project: a 160M phone xmtr; sorry it's AM but these are OLD
project books! Just the simplicity of it should make it fun to build and play
with. It's VFO tuned by adjusting the slug of L1. In fact you can use this on
75 meters (and there IS some AM activity on 75) just by changing the final
L/C network accordingly. Note that as various antennas are tried, the
frequency
will change markedly, necessitating readjustment of the L1 slug. The
microphone
should be a low-impedance crystal type.

Parts list
----------

C1, C2    4 uF, 15 VDC electrolytic caps
C3        100 pF
C4        .015 uF
C5        180 pF
L1        Vari-loopstick (WRL 10M162 or equiv.)
M1        9 volt battery
Q1, Q2, Q3 GE-2 transistors
R1        10K resistor
R2        750K
R3, R4    5.1K
R5        200K
R6        75K
S1        SPST switch


                                                                    ANT
                                                                     |
                                                                     |
MIC---+C1---*---*---B-Q1-C---*---C2+---*---*---B-Q2-C---*---C3---*---*---
  |         |   |      |     |         |   |      |     |        |   |   |
  |         |   |      E     |         |   |      E     |        |   |   |
  |         |   |      |     |         |   |      |     |        |   |   |
  |        R1   R2     |    R3        R4   R5     |     --E-Q3-C--   |   L1
  |         |   |      |     |         |   |      |          |      C5   |
  |         |  GND     |    GND        |   GND    |          B       |  GND
  |         |          |               |          |          |       |
  ----------*----------*---------------*-----------          |      GND
                       |                                     *---
                       |                                     |   |
                       |                                     |   |
                       ----S1---+M1---GND                   R6   C4
                                                             |   |
                                                             |   |
                                                             *----
                                                             |
                                                             |
                                                            GND


Since the xmit frequency can change as you change antennas, I bet a strong
wind blowing against a longwire antenna will cause a little `swing' in
frequency...

This circuit was taken from Brown and Kneital's 101 EASY HAM RADIO PROJECTS.

Next up is a one-transistor 15M CW xmtr; stay tuned.

Jeff, NH6IL

Jeffrey Herman, University of Hawaii Mathematics, [e-mail]

From [e-mail]  Tue Nov  9 19:21:57 1993
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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 93 18:20:36 CST
From: [e-mail] (Michael S. Dooley)
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: NN1G Mark II

I'd like the art work, too!  Would be nice to see and I'd like to
try my hand at making boards, etc.  How bout it?  Is it a possibility?
Mike Dooley
Mike Dooley     KE4PC
Internet:  [e-mail]
mail:  202 Lavon Shores Drive
       Princeton, Texas 75407

From [e-mail]  Tue Nov  9 22:17:07 1993
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Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
From: [e-mail] (karayannopoulos,george)
To: [e-mail]
Date:  9 Nov 1993  22:15 EST
Subject: 72?

Please forget this newbie's questions, but what is 72? The QRP version of 73?
73 minus 1 S-unit for low power?  :-)  :-)  :-)

___________________________________________________________________
George Karayannopoulos              N2OWO
[e-mail]             Bellcore, Red Bank, NJ
Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are mine and not my employer's.

From [e-mail]  Tue Nov  9 22:18:09 1993
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    id AA11752; Tue, 9 Nov 93 22:18:02 -0500 (from nshore!seastar!jjw for [e-mail])
    id m0ox5K0-0000RBC; Tue, 9 Nov 93 21:30 EST
    id m0owvyS-0001E0C; Tue, 9 Nov 93 10:31 CST
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
From: [e-mail] (John Welch)
Subject: Re: SSB Construction
To: [e-mail] (qrp mailing list)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1993 10:31:19 -0600 (CST)
Reply-To: [e-mail]
Organization: Welch Research Laboratories
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In your article <[e-mail]> ["SSB Construction"], you wrote:

> Duane, WB9OMC, writes inquiring about SSB and FM projects.
>
> Yes, it seems like we all love CW, but that's just not true.
> The problem with SSB and FM is the increased cost and complexity
> of design, parts counts, PC boards, and on and on goes the list.
> Rumor has it that several people are working on getting kits out,
> but they just might be too expensive for the average QRPer.
> Money is always an object it seems.

    Just an idea that occurred to me yesterday - 14.318 is a
*very* common computer crystal, common enough to order 10 or 20 of to
build a crystal filter.  A 4 or 6 pole filter would work just
peachy-keen for sideband filtering, and the remaining crystals can be
the LO for a direct conversion SSB rig.  Anybody interested in this?

--
John Welch, N9JZW

From [e-mail]  Tue Nov  9 22:18:10 1993
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Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
From: [e-mail] (John Welch)
Subject: QRP SSB ideas
To: [e-mail] (qrp mailing list)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1993 20:14:44 -0600 (CST)
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After browsing various catalogs, it seems that 1.84322 and 14.31818
are both commonly available crystals in the SSB portion of the
respective bands.  It would seem that a single-frequency QRP SSB
transceiver could be built fairly readily around a 4 or 6 pole xtal
filter of either frequency.

    The biggest problem would be in building a decent filter,
given the tools commonly available.  Anybody who's into filter
building want to give a hand???

    The last time I did one, I used a
TW-1 DDS VFO as a signal generator, and measured the response on a
spectrum analyzer.  Tweaked it untill I got the response I wanted,
then did a broader sweep using a real rf signal generator.  I strongly
doubt these tools are commonly available, however :-(.

    Additional TW-1 note:  The articles have been pushed out,
probably to the Jan 94 issue.  There will be one about a parallel-port
frequency setter using a PC, and one about an EPROM and
thumbwheel-switch gadget.  Sometime later there will be an up-mixer to
allow coverage to 30MHz, then we commence the filter, receiver and
better amplifier.

    BTW, if there is enough interest to warrant it I can come up
with a much better 5 volt supply, a switcher with moderate efficiency.
For those wanting to backpack a TW-1, it's probably a Good Idea, but
finding the inductor is a bit hairy.

--
John Welch, N9JZW

From [e-mail]  Wed Nov 10 07:39:19 1993
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  (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for <[e-mail]>); Wed, 10 Nov 1993 07:38:51 -0500
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1993 07:38:51 -0500
From: Brad Mitchell <[e-mail]>
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: nn1g artwork

I'm not at work today but I figured I better say this to those of
you that asked, I'm not sure if nn1g is making the artwork in the
public domain or not.  Also, I really don't feel that I can
give the artwork out, because I didn't make the initial contact
with nn1g myself.  I guess he had a heck of a signal with his homebrew
qrp rig on s.s.  Anyway, I don't know what to do , other than
possible having my friend write him a note to see what the
scoop is.  Maybe that's the way to go about it?  73 all,
fer now, and if I find out anything, I'll let you know.
    Brad WB8YGG


From [e-mail]  Wed Nov 10 08:59:20 1993
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          Wed, 10 Nov 1993 5:58:40 -0800 (PST)
Date: 10 Nov 1993 08:53:42 +0000
From: "Bob Scott" <[e-mail]>
Subject: NORCAL 40
To: "QRP" <[e-mail]>

                      NORCAL 40
Received my NorCal 40 yesterday in a plain brown wrapper.  I have not decided
whether to build it this weekend or take it to Scouts next week, and begin
building it there.  Maybe I can generate some interest in the Radio Merit Badge
and Ham Radio in general.  It will be difficult to wait until then.  Maybe I
should have bought 2 of the units.

I would like to echo Jeff Gold's comments about the NorCal QRP club.  What you
guys and gals are doing is really exciting and I appreciate being allowed to be
a small part of it.

73
Bob
AC4QO



From [e-mail]  Wed Nov 10 09:52:25 1993
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Date: Wed, 10 Nov 93 06:49:57 -0800
From: [e-mail] (Mark Cronenwett)
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Subject: SSB and Computer Computer Crystals


    Another common crystal is 7.159.  I bought several of these here for
    $.79 apiece.  I have a direct conversion scheme in mind.  Of course
    I am just working on building the transmitter first.  One design is
    a phasing generator in the back of the QRP Notebook, the other is an
    idea from Wayne Burdick using the NE602.

    Mark

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From [e-mail]  Wed Nov 10 10:43:14 1993
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Date: Wed, 10 Nov 93 09:43:26 CST
From: [e-mail] (Brian Cieslak)
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Subject: any more norcal 40 kits

Are there any more kits available -- it not are there plans to make more?

xmas is coming any my xyl wanted to know what I wanted for xmas but she said no the to ts 950.

72,
Brian
AE9K

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From: "AMICULE, DELICIAE, NUM IS SUM QUI MENTIAR TIBI."
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"72" is an abomination perpetrated by the same type of folks
who would call the Mother Tongue the "Morris Code".

A plague on all their trnasmitters. Fie! Fie!

Grover
WT6P


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Come to think of it, a plague on all their "transmitters" would
be better than on their "trnasmitters". (Damn keyboard.)

Grover


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From: Barry x24904/ER/167B-TED <[e-mail]>
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I would like to make a few comments about the simple QRP transmitter designs
recently submitted by Jeff Herman.  These designs were basically obsolete
when published in 1968 and are even more so today as they use transistors that
likely will be quite difficult to obtain.  The GE replacement transistors
called for are all PNP Germanium devices.  At least the 2N744 and 2N852 parts
are NPN Silicon but even these are quite old.  Of course it is certainly
possible to substitute more modern (and readily available) silicon NPN devices
in these circuits with the appropriate changes in battery polarity and biasing
networks.  There is much to favor the generic 2222 series transistor (2N2222,
PN2222, MPS2222, etc.) in circuits like these: they are cheap (often 10 for $1
at hamfest prices, only a little more at Radio Shack), they have a reasonable
gain up to low VHF frequencies, and are available virtually everywhere.  Lots
of circuits have been published using them over the years too.

While I recognize the effort that Jeff went to in posting these schematics,
I think future posts should warn potential builders that obsolete parts are
used.  Since QRP is often a new ham's introduction to homebrew, every effort
should be made to use parts that are readily available - why frustrate the
beginner?

There is nothing wrong with resurrecting older technology as long as you
understand that parts may be hard to find today.  The recent firebottle
(vacuum tube) transmitter was a good example.  The author tried to remain
faithful to the older designs but still wound up having to substitute a
different tube. [I enjoyed his articles, by the way!]  If someone wants to
build a late 1950's to early 1960's vintage QRP transmitter using Germanium
parts, Jeff's posting should be quite useful.  For a first-time construction
project, however, I would stick to more modern designs.
                    73, Barry  WA4VZQ  [e-mail]


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Subject: Computer xtals
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Gang,

I've got a mess of crystals from little computer boards of some sort, all
with a frequency of 3280, if memory serves.  I wonder what that
frequency might have been for way back when.  I've tried multiplying it, dividing it--butstill can't imagine what that crystal frequency might have
been for.

Anyhow, if anyone can use them, let me know; I'll see if I can't lay
hands on them.  I think I have ten or so of them.

72.8381696 . . .

Don Coleman, W1Voq

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The biggest issue I've heard with non-CW QRP operation is the insistence of
most SSB operators on arm-chair 59+ copy, which is difficult to do on QRP
power levels.

QRP power levels relax some of the requirements, and DSB transmission is
often acceptable. As well as dead simple to implement. If you really must
have SSB, one approach might be to whomp up a quick and dirty phasing
exciter, and if the sideband suppression isn't enough, clean it up with a
homebrew crystal filter. This relaxes the requirements on both the filter
and the exciter phasing networks.

There is some material in one of W1FB's books (_QRP Notebook_?) on a simple
phasing exciter. There is an SSB design in the RSGB VHF/UHF Handbook that
employs phasing directly at 2m, which you can't do with filters. And, of
course, there is material in _Solid State Design for the Radio Amateur_ on
DSB and SSB generation and transmission.

73 from Burnaby,
laura VE7LDH

From [e-mail]  Wed Nov 10 14:34:47 1993
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Date: Wed, 10 Nov 93 9:33:40 HST
From: Jeff Herman <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Projects 5-10
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>

First, I'd like to point out that Barry's comments were much appreciated;
these  designs are close to 30 years old. Many of the semiconductors are
just not available now. But part of homebrewing is learning about the
characteristics of each component and learning to make substitutions.
Folks are building these and having success (and fun).

What I feel is a more important reason to post them is the historical
context they represent. These books (which contain these projects) were
one of the first  transistor projects books to be published. Actually,
more than fhalf of the projects contain tube-type circuits, so tubes
were still in use by homebrewers in the late 60's. With today's everything-
on-a-chip technology, it's rare to see such simple, descrete-component
circuits. I enjoy just reading the schematics of these projects.

Be that as it may (whatever that means), here's the remaining projects.

Jeff
*********************************************************************

Subject: Project 5: 15 meter CW xmtr

Here's a one transistor flea-power CW xmtr for 15 meters (I'll provide a
2 transistor 1 watt xmtr as the next project for those of you who want to
run high power on 15M...)

To tune-up the xmtr, just peak C2 for maximum signal on your receiver's S
meter.

Parts list:

Q1    2N373 transistor
C1,5  4700 pF capacitor
C2    3-30 pF trimmer
C3    30 mF
C4    1000 pF
R1    10K resistor
R2,3  510 ohm
R4    50K
B1    9 VDC battery
L1    17 turns B&W 3007, tapped 8 turns from C5 end
X1    21 mHz fundamental 3rd overtone crystal


                      ----X1----*------*------
                     |          |      |      |
                     |          C      |      |
                     |          |     C2     L1----C1-----ANT
          -----------*-------B-Q1      |      |
         |           |          |      |      |
         |           |          E      |      |
         |           |          |      |      |
---------|-----------|--*-C3+-*-*--    |      |
|        |           |  |     |    |   |      |
|        |           |  |     |    |   |      |
|        |          R1  R2   C4   R3   |      |
|        |           |  |     |    |   |      |
|        |           |  |     |    |   |      |
|        |           ---*-----*----*---*--C5--*
|        |                                    |
|        |                                    |
|        ------R4--------*---------------------
|                        |
|                        |
-------------------------*----KEY----B1+----GND



Note the battery's polarity. Recall that * indicates a junction of 3 or
more wires; there are 2 jumps - one from R4 and the other from R1.
Sorry, only straight keys can be used in this xmtr...
Credit goes to Bert Simon, W2UUN, and his book, 104 HAM RADIO PROJECTS.

Jeff NH6IL

Jeffrey Herman, University of Hawaii Mathematics, [e-mail]
************************************************************************
Subject: Project 6: 80M QRP `colorburst' CW xmtr
Keywords: cheap, cw, fun

Gang,
   In preparation for tomorrow's 80M QRP Colorburst Contest, here's a quick
80M xmtr you can throw together in 5 minutes; the 3579 kHz xtal comes,
naturally, from the colorburst oscillator board in your color TV (if you've
got a junked TV, or if you think TV only contains junk, yank the xtal out).
   The rf output is not much - about 25 mw. Tuneup is simple: just bring a
field strength meter into vicinity of L1/L2 and tune L1 for peak deflection
of the meter. If you really want to get fancy, you can substitute a 100 pF
variable for C3 and optimize a bit further; this involves a bit of experi-
mentation to determine a `norm' setting for L1/L2. After this has been
established, all further tuning can be accomplished with C3.

Parts List:

C1   .047 mF capacitor
C2   .0015 mF
C3   100 pF
L1   18 turns of No.30 wire closewound on 3/8 in. diameter slug-tuned form
L2   5 turns of No. 30 closewound around middle of L1. Experiment with posi-
     tion of this coil over L1; in some circuits performance will be increased
     by moving L2 towards cold end of L1. Once exact position has been
     determined (with ant. hooked in and FSM for monitoring), glue in place.
L3   2.5 mH rf choke (National R-100 or equiv.)
M1   3 volt battery
M2   6 volt battery
M3   80 meter xtal
Q1   HEP-2 transistor
R1   330 ohm resistor
R2   27K resistor
S1   spst switch


---------M3----------                                    ANT
|                   |                                     |
|                   |                                     |
*------E-Q1-C-------*------------*-------    --------------
|        B                       |      |    |
|        |                       |      |    |
L3       *--------              C3     L1    L2
|        |       |               |      |    |
|        |       |               |      |    |
R1       R2      C1              *-------    GND
|        |       |               |
|        |       |               |
|       GND     GND              |
|                                |
|                                *----------KEY------M2+----GND
----------S1---M1+---GND         |
                                 |
                                 C2
                                 |
                                 |
                                GND


Note the polarity of M1 and M2.  Hope to hear some of you on the `official
colorburst frequency' of 3579 kHz!

Jeff NH6IL

Jeffrey Herman, University of Hawaii Mathematics, [e-mail]
*********************************************************************
Subject: Project 7: 15 watts on 80 and 40*
Keywords: cheap, cw, fun

* If you are reading this on the rec.radio..homebrew newsgroup feel free
to run the full 15 watts. BUT, if you are reading this on the QRP mailgroup
you can only use this xmtr in the standby mode (a few milliwatts)(no fair
cheating now...).

   Here's the most sophisticated xmtr project so far: 15 watts output on 40
and 80 meters. There is a standby mode which keeps the oscillator ticking
but cuts out the PA transistors - use this for zero-beating your rcvr to
the xmtr output frequency (uh, I guess this really isn't necessary with
today's receivers... This IS an old book).
   The book is 104 HAM RADIO PROJECTS FOR NOVICE AND TECHNICIAN, by
Burt Simon, 1968.
   Burt says:
  "RFC1 should be a low resistance; use a 1/4 inch loopstick and at least
20 turns of #28 wire or larger. No component values are critical except for
the amplifier coils. The NE-2 bulb should be mounted flat against the
chassis near the #49 bulb with both leads connected to the antenna lead
and only stray capacitance to ground. Also be sure to use a fundamental-
frequency crystal. The oscillator transistor does not need a heat sink,
although you'll need a Wakefield #NF207 on the buffer transistor.
   "Tuning: Only final amplifier adjustments are necessary. Tune always
for maximum output, NOT MINIMUM PA CURRENT. Normal tuning of C9 and C10
should bring about a satisfactory bulb brilliance. If antennas are under
30 feet (or 1/2 wave), output capacitance will be much less and tuning
capacitance more; the #49 bulb will show less current, but the neon bulb
will ignite showing high voltage feed. In general, tune for maximum
bulb brilliance regardless of load."

Parts List:
-----------

Q1,2    2N697 transistor; use Wakefield #NF207 heat sink on Q2
Q3,4    PADT50
C1,4,12 330 pF capacitor
C2      .068 mF
C3,5    .01 mF
C6,8    .22 mF electrolytic, 50V
C7      820 pF
C9,10   365 pF variable
C11     330 pF
R1      27K resistor
R2      3.3K
R3      330 ohms
R4      10K
R5      100 ohms 2W
R6      1.5 ohms 2W



                         -------------------------------->12-28VDC
                         |
                         |
                         |       ------------------->12VDC (for zero beating)
                         |       |
                         |     R *
------------*------------*----*--- SW1A
|           |            |    |T *
|           |            |    |  |
R1        RFC1          C5    |  *----*----*----*----
|           |            |    |  |    |    |    |   |
|           |          GND    |  |    |    |    |   |
*---X1------*---C4----        |  C6  RFC3  C8  R6   I3
|           |        |        |  |    |    |    |   |
|           |        *-B-Q2-C--  |    |    *----*---*
*--B-Q1-C----        |   E      GND   |    |        |
|    E               R4  |            |    E        E
|    |               |   *-----C7-----*    Q3-C--C-Q4
*-C1-*----           |   |            |    B        B
|    |   |           |   R5           |    |        |
R2  R3   C3          |   |            *----*---------                    ANT
|    |   |           ----*            |                                    |
|    |   |               |            |    ------>RCVR ANT                 |
*----*---*-----RFC2-------            |    |                     ----I1----*
|    |                                |    |R                    |         |
|    |                                |    *  SW1B               |         |
C2   ----KEY---GND                    |    -----*--L1--*--*--L2--*--*--L3--*
|                                     -----*T   |      |  |      |  |      |
|                                               |      |  |      |  |      |
GND                                           RFC4     |  C11   C10 |     I2
                                                |      |  |    LOAD |      |
                                                |     C9  |      |  C12    |
                                              GND    TUNE |    GND  |    GND
                                                       |  |         |
                                                     GND  |         |
                                                        80*|*40   LO*|*HI
                                                           |         |
                                                       SW2 *         * SW3
                                                           |         |
                                                           |         |
                                                          GND       GND

Whew! Okay, note that the 40M terminal of SW2 is not connected to anything;
neither is the HI terminal of SW3. As I written, C9 is the tuning and C10
is the loading capacitor.

Jeff NH6IL
*****************************************
Subject: Project 8: 1 1/2 watts on 80M CW
Keywords: cheap, CW, fun

   Can you all stand one more 80M xmtr? (Do you get the feeling that I'm trying
to push for more 80M activity? I really love that band!) The book is
104 HAM RADIO PROJECTS FOR NOVICE AND TECHNECIAN by Burt Simon. Burt says:
   "This rig has provided many hours of fun for the authors in the 80M novice
band, where regular 800 mile DX has been nothing out of the ordinary. In
fact one contact was made with a W6 in Los Angeles from our Long Island,NY
QTH.
   "Tuning is conventional. Transistors should be loaded to about 50ma in
the bottom of the dip if you're pumping in the full 30 volts. With C6 about
half meshed, L1 should resonate at the low end of the 80M band. (You can
check this with your GDO)."

Parts List

Q1, Q2  2N269 transistor
C1, C2  150 pF capacitor
C3, C4  300 pF
C5      .01 mF
C6      200 pF variable
C7      50 pF
R1, R2  470K resistor
R3, R4  2K
R5      200 ohms
B1      30 VDC battery
L1      30 turns, center-tapped, on 1 inch form, with 4 turn link into
        center for output
RFC1,2  2.5 mH RF choke (National R-100)
X1      80 meter fundamental crystal
M1      0-100 DC milliammeter
                                                                   ANT
                                                                    |
--------*--------*--------*--------B-Q1-C--------                   |
|       |        |        |          E          |                   C7
|       |        |        C1         |          |                   |
|       R1      R3        |        RFC1         *---------          |
|       |        |        C3         |          |        |    -------
|       |        |        |          |          |        |    |
X1      *-----   *--------*----------*---GND    C6       )    |
|       |    |   |        |          |          |        ) L1 (
|       |    |   |        C4         |          |    ----)    (
|      R2    |   R4       |        RFC2         |    |   )    |
|       |    |   |        C2         |          |    |   |    |
|       |    |   |        |          E          |    |   |    GND
--------*----)---*--------*--------B-Q1-C-------*----)----
             |                                       |
             |                                       |
--+B1---M1---*--------------------------------R5-----*-----C5-----GND
|
|
|
----KEY----GND


Note the polarity of B1; there are two `jumps': between R2 and R4, and
over the `hot' end of L1.

1 1/2 watts should be real fun - not quite the challenge as the 25 mw xmtr.

Okay, no more 80M xmtrs! I promised I'd post a 2M xmtr - I have two - neither
are FM, though. I'll post them next and let you folks figure out how to
FM them; shouldn't be hard at all. (Probably only the r.r.a.homebrew folks
will be interested in them, but you QRP mailgroup folks might have a use
for them also.)

Jeff NH6IL (ex: WA6QIJ)
*************************************************************
Subject: Project 9: 2M CW transmitter

Here's the first of two 2M xmtrs: this one is a 2-transistor CW rig and the
other is a 3-transistor AM circuit which you can FMize yourself (of course
the AM xmtr can be used for CW, too). Here's what Burt Simon in 104 HAM
RADIO PROJECTS FOR NOVICE AND TECHNICIAN (1968) has to say:
   "Here's a dandy 2-meter CW rig that will astound the local gang. Using
only 2 transistors and a 72 MHz third overtone crystal, you can  practically
carry the set around with you. It can be built into the tiniest of boxes
and requires only a 9-volt battery to power it. At least one VHFer has
worked 110 miles with this transmitter, and several (built as club projects)
have been equipped with simple one-transistor modulators.
   "Construction is simple, although care must be taken to insure that all
leads are as short as possible. L3 should have its iron-core slug removed.
The RFCs are simple 1/2 watt resistors wound full of #36 enameled wire. To
check their efficiency, use a grid dip meter to see if you're anywhere
near 144 MHz. If they aren't, remove or add turns until the desired frequency
(should correspond with your transmit frequency) is achieved. L1 should be
neutralized by winding a full solenoid of #26 wire on a 1 meg, 1 watt resistor.
Leaving only about 1/2-inch of lead, solder the choke to the crystal socket.
It should resonant at your operating frequency.
   "Main thing is to get the crystal to oscillate. If you have trouble, adjust
L2 and expand or compress the turns of L1 until you hear (using a 2-meter
receiver) the oscillator harmonic. From here on in you can simply tune for
maximum signal using a GDO, field strength meter, or receiver S meter."

Parts List

Q1, 2    2N1745 transistor
C1, 2    .001 mF capacitor
C3, 4    .01 mF
C5       50 pF
C6       12 mF, 5%
R1       510 ohm resistor
R2       30K
R3       10K
R4       100 ohms
B1       9vdc battery
L1       19 turns #24 enameled wire on 1 meg, 1 watt resistor
L2       9 1/2 turns #24 enameled wire on 5/16 inch slug-tuned form
L3       6 1/2 turns #24 enameled wire, spaced 1/6 inch on 5/16 inch slug-
         tuned form
L4       1 3/4 turns #22 enameled wire on cold end of L3
RFC1,2,3 #36 enameled wire wound (and glued) on 1/2 watt resistor. Should
         check to approximately 145 MHz with GDO. If it doesn't, adjust number
         of turns. (Ohmite Z-144)
X1       72 MHz 5th overtone crystal
SW1      SPST switch

            ---L1---
            |      |
            |      |
------------*--X1--*------------
|                              |
|                              |
*------------E-Q1-C------      C1
|              B        |      |
|              |        )      |
R1             |     L2 )------)------C6---*---E-Q2-C-------   -----C5---ANT
|              |      ^ )      |           |     B         | ^ |
|              |      | )-------           |     |         ) | (
RFC1           |      | )                RFC2    |       L3) | (L4
|              |        )                  |    GND        ) | (
|              |        |                  |               |   |
GND     -------*--R2-*--*                 R4         ------*   |
        |      |     |  |                  |         |     |   GND
        |      |     |  |                  |         |     |
       C2     R3    C3  |                GND        C4    RFC3
        |      |     |  |                            |     |
        |      |     |  |                           GND    |
      GND     GND  GND  |                                  |
                        -----------------------------------*---SW1--B1+--GND


Notes: Observe good VHF wiring techniques (we can't be as sloppy here as
we are down on the HF bands!) The positive pole of B1 goes to ground. I
attempted to use arrows to indicate the adjustable coil forms. Nothing
was said about the two taps coming off of L2 - you'll have to experiment
as to their placement. C1 jumps over the other tap from L2.

If any of you build this pup let the rest of us know how you got it to
work.... (who in the world has even got 72 MHz xtals anymore?)

Jeff NH6IL (ex WA6QIJ)
************************************************************************
Subject: Project 10: A BFO for your $40 SW rcvr

It seems there are quite a few cheapie shortwave receivers out there that
have everything (synthesizer tuning, digital readout, fairly good specs)
but lack the all important BFO to copy SSB and CW. Well, let's remedy that
problem right now. The heart of this project is a 455 kHz IF transformer:
go to your closest junked broadcast radio receiver and steal one from
there.

If you are reading this on rec.radio.shortwave you may skip this paragraph;
if you are reading this on rec.radio.amateur.homebrew or on the QRP mailgroup
here's a neat idea: get one of these cheapie SW rcvrs and after installing
this BFO you'll have a great companion to any of the simple transmitters
I've been posting! Let's face it, xmtrs are easy to build, but rcvrs
certainly require more care; for $40 you can pick up one of these
synthesized digital readout pups and have a complete backpack
transmitter-receiver pair.


PARTS LIST

Q1    2N544 transistor
C1    15 pfd variable capacitor
C2    .001 mfd
C3,4  .01 mfd
R1    7.5K resistor
R2    5.1K
B1    1.5 VDC battery
T1    Miller #9-C2 IF transformer
SW1   SPST switch


-------------------------------------                            ANT
|                                   |                             |
|                                   |                             |
R1                                  |                             |
|                                   |                             |
|                                   |                             |
*------*------B-Q1-C-----*----------)-------------*------C2--------
|      |        E        |          |             |
|      |        |        |          |             |
R2     |        |        C1         |             *-----
|      |       GND       |          |             |    )
|      |                 |          |             |    )
GND    |                GND         |             C    )  -------O
       |                            |             |    )  (
       |                            *-------------)----)  (     N.C.
       |                            |             |    )  (
       |                            |             |    )  -------O
       |                            |             |    )
       --------------C3-------------)-------------*-----
                                    |
                                    |
                                    *-------SW1-----B1+----GND
                                    |
                                   C4
                                    |
                                   GND

Recall: Q1 is marked B=base, C=collector, E=emitter; the case of Q1
MUST be grounded; GND=ground; note the polarity of B1.
Now, the unmarked capacitor, C, and its associated transformer, are
inside the can of the IF transformer; if you remove the can you'll
see where to make the connections. N.C. means not connected - while
you have the can off you'll have to cut those leads. Also, screw the
tuning screw slug all the way out. After you've put everything together
set C1 about midway. Adjust the transformer slug until it resonates
at 455 kHz, which can be accomplished using a receiver or GDO. AS
you tune the slug (using the receiver) you should hear the heterodyne note
of the BFO lowering in pitch until it eventually zero-beats. Stop tuning
at this point. The BFO antenna can be any piece of hookup wire wrapped
around the antenna wire near (or even inside of) the receiver. Whenever
you want to copy CW or SSB, merely flick on SW1.

Jeff NH6IL



From [e-mail]  Wed Nov 10 15:27:12 1993
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    id AA28916; Wed, 10 Nov 93 13:26:32 MST
    id AA21714; Wed, 10 Nov 93 12:52:10 -0700
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 93 12:52:10 -0700
From: [e-mail] (Tom J Farish)
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail], [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  Computer xtals

Hi....maybe they are clock crystals from early mini-processors!  BTW, are
you by any chance related to Jack Coleman at the MIT Plasma Fusion Center?

I worked with him years ago, and I don't remember the names of his kids....

Tom
KJ5LT


From [e-mail]  Wed Nov 10 17:10:15 1993
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    id AA10899; Wed, 10 Nov 93 17:09:41 EST
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 93 17:09:41 EST
From: [e-mail] (Ron Majewski)
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: 40m


After my QRO fall from grace during the CW SS, I fired up my tr5 last
night at 4w on 40mtrs.   I was using a ground mounted Cushcraft R7
as an antenna.

The band was quiet, noise-wise.  I heard a Cuban station and a few Californians
around 0245.

Not finding any CQ's, I called my own around 0250.  kd4ff in Fairfax, VA answered
me right away.  We tossed the ball back and forth for about 30 minutes.

At 405 air miles between us, that works out to 100 miles/watt.  I've got
to find an order of magnitude to catch up with Chuck!

I received my NorCal40 this week, and I hope to get it together over Thanksgiving.

72/3!

Ron (wb8ruq).

From [e-mail]  Wed Nov 10 17:50:58 1993
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    id AA18908; Wed, 10 Nov 93 12:50:39 HST
    id AA06892; Wed, 10 Nov 93 12:50:39 HST
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 93 12:50:39 HST
From: Jeff Herman <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: project 7 problem
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>

Something is bothering me concerning the circuit of project 7 (15 watts
on 80/40). Notice that the collectors of Q3 and Q4 are tied together;
does that seem normal to any of you designers? In all the other circuits
the collector represented the output - here the collectors aren't tied
to anything else.

Jeff NH6IL

From [e-mail]  Wed Nov 10 18:04:37 1993
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    id AA24533; Thu, 11 Nov 93 08:12:19 EST
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 93 08:12:19 EST
From: [e-mail] (Richard Urmonas)
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.3 5/22/91)
To: [e-mail]
Subject: SSB filters and computer XTALS

Now I have never built a xtal filter from discrete comoponents but if
memory serves the low cost computer crystals are specified for as broad
+/- 1000 ppm.  Now if one uses a 14 MHz xtal this means a spread of 14 kHz.
Even with a "better" quality computer xtal say +/- 100 ppm the spread is
1.4 kHz.  As I haven't done any xtal filter design I don't know how well
such spreads can be accomodated, but it may bear consideration before
trying to assemble a filter.

73
Richard

From [e-mail]  Wed Nov 10 18:37:23 1993
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From: [e-mail] (Randy)
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BFO for SHORTWAVE...using 1993 parts

(Jeff...this is NOT meant as a rub on you)


           +--/\/\/\/------+-------+--o +5 to 15 vdc
           |  330k         |       |
           |              /       _|_ .01uf
           |       B    |/  C     ___
           |------------|          |
           |            |\  E     ###
           |--)(----------\__________________________/ see note about
           | 470pf         |                          'insulated emitter wire'
           |               |---)(-----+
455kc     ---              <   470pf  |
Ceramic   %%%       2200   >         ### gnd
resonator ---       ohms   >
           |               |
          ###             ###


Transistor: 2N2222 or similar    2N3904 or similar

Ceramic Resonator: Digikey has these --- do not confuse with the
                   455kc filter (which is 3 prongs) nor the
                   resonator with 'built in capacitor'

To run this on 90-135vdc, ADD a series resistor 330k from --o + to
the B+ in the radio.( Now Zenith Transoceanics can get CW & SSB!)

To run this on 135-250vdc make the resistor be 680k 1 watt
 That Emitter wire...to be insulated....wrap around last the last
IF transistor...or tape it to the ckt board on the IF amps' ckt
to provide enough coupling.
 Adjust its position to get enough signal, so SSB sound right, and not
all distorted when strong sig comes along.

To get +/- BFO tuning, replace the 470pf cap going to gnd, with a
twin gang cap 266pf each side...Mouser #24TR218 (get also2  #48SS003 screws)
and  wire it to be 513 pf.
Add paralell to it, 180pf
 Tune range will be limited.

If you don't like that, then do this:

replace both 470pf with 330pf and wire the tune cap so its common
connection goes to the emitter and its 2 end connects go to gnd and base.

This means now having the tune cap 'above gnd' so must be run with a plastic
knob and mtg to non metal.

Tune range will be a bit more and will be less likly to stall.

There are no other adjustments needed to be done.

---


Randy KA1UNW              If you get a shock while
                         servicing  your  equipment,         "Works for me!"
randy@192.153.4.200             DON'T  JUMP!                     -Peter Keyes
                     You might break an expensive tube!



From [e-mail]  Wed Nov 10 21:53:32 1993
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    id AA08645; Wed, 10 Nov 1993 21:53:14 -0500
    id AA01983; Wed, 10 Nov 93 21:54:05 EST
    id AA03794; Wed, 10 Nov 93 21:53:58 EST
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] (Richard Urmonas)
Cc: [e-mail], [e-mail]
Subject: Re: SSB filters and computer XTALS
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 11 Nov 93 08:12:19 EST."
             <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 93 21:53:57 EST
From: "John F. Woods" <[e-mail]>

The usual approach to dealing with computer crystals for filters is to
buy a lot of them (I've got 70 16MHz crystals in a bag to my left) and
use an oscillator and frequency meter to match them.  This means you can
assemble a filter from tight tolerance crystals though your IF frequency
isn't very predictable.

From [e-mail]  Thu Nov 11 02:47:30 1993
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    id m0oxPBX-00003CC; Wed, 10 Nov 93 23:42 GMT
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Projects 5-10
To: [e-mail] (Jeff Herman)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1993 23:42:47 +0000 (GMT)
Cc: [e-mail]
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]> from "Jeff Herman" at Nov 10, 93 09:33:40 am
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Jeff, NH6IL writes,

>
> What I feel is a more important reason to post them is the historical
> context they represent. These books (which contain these projects) were
> one of the first  transistor projects books to be published. Actually,
> more than fhalf of the projects contain tube-type circuits, so tubes
> were still in use by homebrewers in the late 60's.

  *** Jeff, This is really making me feel old!  Talking about my Novice
days as if they were some geologic epoch.  ``Yes, in the Paleolithic,
transistors had just been invented...''.

   I have my good old copy of ``Ham Radio Projects for Novice & Technician''
in front of me right now.  I remember drooling over every project in
detail, even building a few.  Like, for example, project #67, the ``Novice
807 Transmitter''.  This featured a 6V6 oscillator driving an 807 final
stage.  Ah, the 807... I was too young to drink a nice cold 807 back then,
could only build stuff with'em.

  I built mine on a gutted ARC5 chassis.  My first and only contact using
it was with a fellow Novice in L.A.  About halfway through the QSO, the
plate current started to rise... and rise.... and then smoke started
coming out...  My little transmitter was a victim of the dreaded 807
parasitic oscillation.

                                   - Jerry Kaidor
***************************************************************
* Jerry Kaidor       [e-mail], [e-mail]     *
*                    KF6VB                                    *
***************************************************************


From [e-mail]  Thu Nov 11 04:43:33 1993
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    id AA19930; Thu, 11 Nov 93 17:53:12 EST
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 93 17:53:12 EST
From: [e-mail] (Richard Urmonas)
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.3 5/22/91)
To: [e-mail]
Subject: SSB filters and direct conversion

OOPS!! When I sent my comment on frequency spread I meant to refer to people
experimenting with "direct conversion"-SIC.  Thanks to the people who
commented on selecting matched crystals.  I was aware of this but had meant
my comment to apply to the "direct conversion" experiments, where the
frequency spread will hamper communications between two similar units.

73
Richard,  VK3DRU

From [e-mail]  Thu Nov 11 15:34:02 1993
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    id AA372814 ; Thu, 11 Nov 93 15:10:46 EST
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 93 20:15:30 GMT
Message-Id: <21123@jek>
From: [e-mail] (Jim Kearman)
To: [e-mail]
Subject: NorCal40

If you've used or heard this rig on the air, please
send email to [e-mail] and tell Bob, KU7G
what you think of it. Thanks!

72, Jim, KR1S



From [e-mail]  Thu Nov 11 17:29:28 1993
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    id AA10041; Thu, 11 Nov 93 12:29:23 HST
    id AA13833; Thu, 11 Nov 93 12:29:23 HST
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 93 12:29:22 HST
From: Jeff Herman <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: QRP-NE (JIM)
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>

Jim W1FMR of QRP-NE,
   I can't seem to email you - there's no return address on your msg.
Yes, feel free to use those circuits in your newsletter. I think it
is important that we preserve that period of time in ham radio and
try to disseminate the contents of these books widely.

Jeff NH6IL

From [e-mail]  Thu Nov 11 17:33:10 1993
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          Nov 1993 16:32:18 CST
To: [e-mail]
From: [e-mail] (Kevin Anderson -7325)
Subject: homebrew help
Date:
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>

Can one of you Ten-Tec PowerMite experts help Ed?
I got this message off the rec.radio.amateur.homebrew list.

                  Kevin Anderson, [e-mail]

--- Forwarded message follows ---
From: [e-mail] (Majec Systems)
Subject: homebrew help
Keywords: swr protection circuit
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1993 18:02:59 GMT

I am thinking about a project to put in a swr protection circuit in my
QRP radio. It is a TEN-TEC pm2. A direct conversion 1 watt vfo/crystal
transceiver.
I am using a 10 ohm resistor in the dc line to the collector on the
final, and when I have it tuned for the antenna I take the resistor
out and close up the line. Crude I will admit. This is only a
temporary fix and will not be good for portable operation such as
camping etc. So....

Any suggestions for a protection circuit would be appreciated as i am
very new to the sport of ham homebrew and need some elmering on most
things.

Thanks

Ed Guinn
KB5RUF/AG
[e-mail]


From [e-mail]  Thu Nov 11 21:38:33 1993
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Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
From: [e-mail] (John Welch)
Subject: Re: SSB filters and computer XTALS
To: [e-mail] (qrp mailing list)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1993 09:06:51 -0600 (CST)
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In your article <[e-mail]> ["SSB filters and computer XTALS"], you wrote:

> Now I have never built a xtal filter from discrete comoponents but if
> memory serves the low cost computer crystals are specified for as broad
> +/- 1000 ppm.  Now if one uses a 14 MHz xtal this means a spread of 14 kHz.
> Even with a "better" quality computer xtal say +/- 100 ppm the spread is
> 1.4 kHz.  As I haven't done any xtal filter design I don't know how well
> such spreads can be accomodated, but it may bear consideration before
> trying to assemble a filter.
>
> 73
> Richard

    Most of the computer grade xtals I've seen have been +/- 25 to
50 ppm.  Batches from the same mfg are usually within 2KHz or less
from each other, and it's really easy to match a bunch for filters if
you buy 30 or so at once (and you get quantity discounts too:-), build
a simple oscillator (I use a 74HC04 based unit with a socket for the
crystals) and measure the frequency on a decent counter.

    Note that you get *a filter*, not necessarily a filter at the
exact frequency you wanted.  My 10MHz filter (6 pole, 3KHz wide) is
about 3.5KHz lower than 10MHz, and my 12MHz (6 pole, 2.7KHz at
present) is centered about 12.001500MHz.  The 12MHz xtals on my
oscillator came in at 12.005700, and as I recall the 10s were all
9.995000-ish...  Guess my oscillator isn't quite series-resonant.

--
John Welch, N9JZW

From [e-mail]  Fri Nov 12 00:13:14 1993
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    for [e-mail] id AA00931; Thu, 11 Nov 93 21:13:05 -0800
    for @sgi.sgi.com:[e-mail] id AA13455; Thu, 11 Nov 93 23:13:01 -0600
    for @sgidal.dallas.sgi.com:[e-mail] id AA03371; Thu, 11 Nov 93 23:12:59 -0600
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 93 23:12:59 -0600
From: [e-mail] (Chuck Adams)
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: WAS QRP Award


Gang,

For those of you who have worked contests, past, present and future
sponsored by the QRP ARCI.  During these contests you copied calls
and QRP ARCI Membership numbers.  This list is sufficient for proof
of contact.  You don't need a QSL.

Also, the QRP WAS (Worked All States) starts at 20 states, you don't
have to work all 50 before applying.  Check the rules posted previously.

So, if you have worked 20 or more states (we have endorsements for
20, 30, 40 and all 50 states), and you wanna apply for this award,
send me email.  I'll send you a form that I use and you return it
to me with the $2 to pay for the certificate and postage.  That's
all there is to it.  I don't make a dime on this, it's for the club
(QRP ARCI).

I'll pay the postage to you for the forms, just because.

So, when working stations, be sure to get their ARCI Membership
number.  The club does not publish these things just for this reason.

So, by working the contests, QSO parties, net checkins, etc. you can
rapidly run up your state counts.  Also, when you move, you start
over.  At least, that's the way the ARRL does it and I think that's
fair.

Anyone on the net a county hunter.  I need to talk to you via
email.  Thanks.

73 der now de k5fo/qrp   dit   dit

SIG
------cut here----------
Chuck Adams, K5FO - CP60
[e-mail]
QRP ARCI Awards Chairman




From [e-mail]  Fri Nov 12 00:50:45 1993
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From: Scott Wood <[e-mail]>
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
Subject: ARRL QRP Tri-Bander
To: [e-mail]
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I just picked up the latest revision of the ARRL projects compiled from
QST magazine.  My brother seems to have permanently borrowed my old
"Weekend Projects" book, and made quite a few projects from it, including
the 'sardine sender' and the 'tuna tuner'.

However, I was more interested in T/R combinations of QRP rigs, as well
as the Omni-box utilities which both seem to be covered well in the new
book.

I was sorta drawn in my the Mavti design, but due to the chronology
of the article, I am not sure how many parts I could come by.  Be nice
to have a T/R rig with a SuperHet receiver.

I did however cast a discerning eye on the next project, a tri-bander
for 12/15/17 meters.  I have even considered getting Doug Demaw's books
to try adding a superhet to the design.  Has anyone played with this
rig?   It looks like a fairly simple and spacious design and I was
wondering how it worked (especially with the direct conversion receive).

swood

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From [e-mail]  Fri Nov 12 09:39:14 1993
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    (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA01851; Fri, 12 Nov 93 09:39:07 -0500
    (queueing-rmail) id 093710.13125; Fri, 12 Nov 1993 09:37:10 EST
    id AA14631; Fri, 12 Nov 93 09:29:14 EST
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 93 09:29:14 EST
From: [e-mail] (Edward Pacyna)
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail], uunet!vela.acs.oakland.edu![e-mail]
Subject: Re:  ARRL QRP Tri-Bander

>
>I did however cast a discerning eye on the next project, a tri-bander
>for 12/15/17 meters.  I have even considered getting Doug Demaw's books
>to try adding a superhet to the design.  Has anyone played with this
>rig?   It looks like a fairly simple and spacious design and I was
>wondering how it worked (especially with the direct conversion receive).
>
>swood
>
>I have built this transceiver. It is not a very good design. I found
the crystal control, lots of AM breakthrough and poor selectivity to be
very limiting.

73 Ed W1AAZ

From [e-mail]  Fri Nov 12 09:40:42 1993
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    id AA19216; Fri, 12 Nov 93 08:39:01 CST
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 93 08:39:01 CST
From: [e-mail] (Michael S. Dooley)
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail], [e-mail]
Subject: NorCal 40

>> I'd like the art work, too!  Would be nice to see and I'd like to
>> try my hand at making boards, etc.  How bout it?  Is it a possibility?
>> Mike Dooley
>> Mike Dooley     KE4PC
>> Internet:  [e-mail]
>> mail:  202 Lavon Shores Drive
>>        Princeton, Texas 75407
>>
>Well, I don't really have the authority to do that. If you want to
>get something in writing from nn1g about putting it on an ftp site,
>then we can, but I really don't have authority to give it out any further
>than what our club member had talked to nn1g about.  I'' bet he doesn't
>care, but can't take a chance!
>
>            73 Brad

No problem, Brad.  I'll try to get with him or one of the others at
the NorCal club.  Based on everyones raves about the original, the new
one is probably four or five degrees past fabulous! <grin>...
Take care!

Mike Dooley KE4PC
Another Native born Texan!
(gosh, Mr. Dillon, where'd ya' get the four call?)

From [e-mail]  Fri Nov 12 12:41:43 1993
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Date:        Thu, 11 Nov 93 09:20:32 EST
From: ABRC000 <[e-mail]>
To: <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: QRP Projects
In-Reply-To: In reply to your message of WED 10 NOV 1993 12:03:30 EST

>
> I would like to make a few comments about the simple QRP transmitter designs
> recently submitted by Jeff Herman.  These designs were basically obsolete
> when published in 1968 and are even more so today as they use transistors that
> likely will be quite difficult to obtain.  The GE replacement transistors
> called for are all PNP Germanium devices.  At least the 2N744 and 2N852 parts
> are NPN Silicon but even these are quite old.  Of course it is certainly
> possible to substitute more modern (and readily available) silicon NPN devices
> in these circuits with the appropriate changes in battery polarity and biasing
> networks.  There is much to favor the generic 2222 series transistor (2N2222,
> PN2222, MPS2222, etc.) in circuits like these: they are cheap (often 10 for $1
> at hamfest prices, only a little more at Radio Shack), they have a reasonable
> gain up to low VHF frequencies, and are available virtually everywhere.  Lots
> of circuits have been published using them over the years too.
>
> While I recognize the effort that Jeff went to in posting these schematics,
> I think future posts should warn potential builders that obsolete parts are
> used.  Since QRP is often a new ham's introduction to homebrew, every effort
> should be made to use parts that are readily available - why frustrate the
> beginner?
>
> There is nothing wrong with resurrecting older technology as long as you
> understand that parts may be hard to find today.  The recent firebottle
> (vacuum tube) transmitter was a good example.  The author tried to remain
> faithful to the older designs but still wound up having to substitute a
> different tube. [I enjoyed his articles, by the way!]  If someone wants to
> build a late 1950's to early 1960's vintage QRP transmitter using Germanium
> parts, Jeff's posting should be quite useful.  For a first-time construction
> project, however, I would stick to more modern designs.
>                     73, Barry  WA4VZQ  [e-mail]
>
also it is my understanding that the purity requirements for
gear have changed since the 60's and these circuits may not
meet these requirements. There was an aritcle this summer about
building projects from the 50's in an issue of QST this summer.
They had a sidebar warning of this problem with older projects.
Another reason inexperienced builders should stay away from
these.

******************************************************************
* Rodney Clayton  KA3BHY            Howard County Public Schools *
*                                   Ellicott City, MD  USA       *
* Systems Programmer                [e-mail]            *
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From [e-mail]  Fri Nov 12 12:56:22 1993
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Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
From: [e-mail]
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 93 12:57 EST
Original-From: mvuss!es (Edward S Parsons [phone])
To: [e-mail]

To: qrp
Subject: QRP SS Scores

Here is the latest scores I have for the QRP category of CW SS:

W2GD   814/76
K0FRP  824/75
W9UP   788/76
W9RE   751/76
AA2U   757/75
K1TR   686/76
WA4PGM 667/76
N0AX   615/76
KB4GID 569/72
N5NMX  465/73
WB2CPU 353/69
KD4HZ  209/63
AE9K   153/54
WA7BNM 100/52

If I receive any more of significance, I will re-issue it.

Ed, K1TR
[e-mail]

From [e-mail]  Fri Nov 12 13:38:36 1993
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 12 Nov 1993 10:22:23 PDT
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1993 11:24:41 -0800
From: [e-mail] (Grover Cleveland)
Subject: Re: WAS QRP Award
To: [e-mail] (Chuck Adams)
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NOTE: the following is part of an exchange between Chuck and myself
regarding the 50 mile rule of the League for WAS awards. Chuck proposes
to adopt the League's guidline and I cried "foul."

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>Grover,
>
>well, let's see.  In Texas I can move 600 miles, which is like
>moving around 20 states in some areas of the country.
>
>Have all your moves been within the guidelines set aside by the
>ARRL?  i.e. 50 miles or less?
>
>ciao,
>
>SIG
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>Chuck Adams, K5FO - CP60
>[e-mail]
>QRP ARCI Awards Chairman

Well the last four moves were within 15 miles but at one point I moved
400 miles.

I don't think that's the issue. Once again hard and fast rules
prove how silly it is to have hard and fast rules.  My moving from
southern California to northern California gave me not one whit of
advantage in working Maine, or New Hampshire, or Delaware, or anywhere
else. The states in the West are generally so large anyway that if you can
work someone in Ashland (southern Oregon) when you are in L.A. and then
move 400 miles north to Sacramento you still have the same path length to a
station
in Portland (northern Oregon).

Propagation being the crap shoot it is, and random contacts
being the norm, my move within the state gave me no advantage at all.
Perhaps the rules made sense when the League was all on 200 meters doing
short-haul work on ground wave, and it certainly makes sense on vhf,
but on the low bands - give me a break.

If I work the guy in Maine on 20 meters it was because I was on the air
at the same time he was, I ran across the same frequency he was on, and
propagation allowed it - not because I was in Sacramento or San Diego
or Galveston or Amarillo.

So in my book, screw the League's guidelines. It's about time we took to task
the blind acceptance of others' rules as gospel and did our own thinking on
the matter. I think we are capable of that and in fact we owe it to the
organization to develop rules that make sense to us primarily in the context
of qrp operating, and secondarily in contemporary patterns of social
nomadism (as a society we move a great deal).

Grover
WT6P
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Subject: WAS Rules


Gang,

It was not the purpose of my correspondance with another member of
this group to start an open discussion on the WAS award.  The program
has been in place for more than 25 years.  I don't make the rules
and in order to make a change in the rules requires an extensive
procedure for the BOD (Board of Directors) and the membership.

I quote from a previous posting of the awards program:

The objective of the QRP ARCI Operating Awards Program is to demonstrate
that "power is no substitute for skill".  It encourages full enjoyment
of Ham Radio while running the minimum power necessary to complete a
QSO and thereby reducing QRM on our crowded bands.  QRP is defined
by the club as 5 watts output CW and 10 watts PEP output SSB.  The
following awards are available to any Amateur.  Requirements are set
forth below.

....stuff deleted....

                          WAS-QRP

This award is issued to any Amateur for confirming QSOs with stations
in 20 or more of the 50 states of the USA while running QRP.
Endorsement seals are issued at 30, 40 and 50 states confirmed.

....stuff deleted....

1)  The fee for all awards, except QRP NET (QNI-25), is $2.00 US or
10 IRCs.  Subsequent Endorsement Seals are $1.00 or 5 IRCs.  Make
checks or money orders (preferred) payable to QRP ARCI.  Cash accepted,
but not recommended through the mail.

2)  GCR List (General Certificate Rule):  QRP ARCI will accept as
satisfactory proof of confirmed QSOs and that the QSLs are on hand
as claimed by the applicant if the list is signed by: (a) a radio
club official, OR (b) two amateur radio operators, general class or higher,
OR (c) notary public, OR (d) CPA.  If you must send QSLs, please include
postage for their return.  Neither QRP ARCI or the Awards Chairperson
are responsible for lost or damaged QSLs.

3)  QRP ARCI member numbers are not published.  The Awards Program
will accept as satisfactory proof for any of the club awards a QSO
with a club member giving their membership number and power output
in the log data.  If the QRP number and power are not given a QSL
is required for confirmation.  See Note 2 above.

4) Endorsement seals are available for a) One Band, b) One Mode,
c) Natural Power, d) Novice and e) Two-way QRP if log data so indicates.

Send Applications to:

                       QRP ARCI AWARDS CHAIRMAN
                       Chuck Adams  K5FO
                       830 Waite Drive
                       Copper Canyon, TX  75067-8581



------------------end of quote--------------------------

The ARRL requirement of 50 miles or less from the same QTH isn't
that much a serious deterent to getting the award.  Remember, we
start at 20 states, not all 50.  We're not trying to do like the
CH (County Hunters) and be able to work all 3076 counties by even
going there and making a contact to someone else.

The function of an award is to have something to show for effort
expended on the part of the individual receiving the award.  The
individual, from one location, spends some time on the air working
all or part of the 50 states.  It is true that some individuals
may have an advantage of geographical location over others due to
rarity of band openings to needed states, lack of activity from
needed states, band conditions for a single band for the desired
award with endorsement, and the list goes on.

In fact, QRP WAS #1 was issued Dec 12, 1969.  Since that date,
only 348 certificates have been issued, and not all of those have
reached the 50 mark.  So, it's not easy.

I think that anyone can get the starting 20 just by working one
or two ARCI contests.

The question is this:  Is it fair to all the individuals that
worked to win the award under difficult conditions to have another
win the same award with a different set of rules?  I think the
answer is an obvious no.  Do you want a different award?  Does
the membership want a different award?  Time will tell.

Also, there is one rule that we have that actually gives you an
advantage over other award programs.  We DO NOT REQUIRE QSL cards.
We all have had trouble getting a QSL card from a needed state,
country, ....  If you work a fellow QRP ARCI member and exchange
numbers, you have a valid contact.  The QRP ARCI does not publish
the membership list and numbers exactly for this reason.  If the
club changes this, then we add an additional level of difficulty
into the program that would require the QSL cards and all the
paper overhead and expense on all parties part.

We just have to keep our standards.  End of Message.

73 de k5fo

SIG
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Chuck Adams, K5FO - CP60
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QRP ARCI Awards Chairman




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Subject: NorCal 40

Wayne,
    Regarding my faux paux about the NorCal 40... oops...  I meant the
NN1g and got confused.  Since I don't know the fellow, is there a timetable
for the release of it as a kit?
Mike Dooley
KE4PC
[e-mail]

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Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1993 20:47:06 GMT
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Hi every one !

Does any one know where I can find an small inexpensive (Cheap but not
poor quality) sheet metal brake sutable for making cabnets for my QRP
projects?

I have read some where that JC Whitney had one, but do you think I can
find a JC Whitney cataloge, noooooooo, and I cant remember where I read
this.

If any one has any info on where I might find one, or an address for JC
Whitney pls send it along.


Thanks

Bob Berlyn                                  [e-mail]
N1PWU

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    I've put together a simple home-brew crystal filter for SSB -
9 pole using 12MHz computer crystals matched with a simple oscillator.
Since it's important to match each section for best performance, I
built a simple wheatstone bridge and measured the filter with it.  At
resonance, it seems to be about 150-200 ohms, and at other frequencies
it's over 5k.

    My question is, is this a functional way to measure the
filter's impedance?  It sure seems low, given that the ARRL's articles
all seem to be in the 2-5k range, and commercially available filters
are likewise.  Am I missing something?

    The filter seems to be about 3.2khz wide, and fed at 150 ohms
the filter attenuation maxes out at about 60db.  It's built with 9
xtals in series, fed by a 91pf SM cap, with 91pf caps from each
junction to ground, and it ends with a 91pf cap as well.  The xtals
are within 200hz of each other when I put them in a test oscillator,
but this bears no resemblance to the actual series-resonant frequency
(which I may be able to measure with the bridge too - more later).

    Any light that can be shed on this would be appreciated.  Oh,
I do not have access to piles of old QSTs, so if there is an article
in there that's relevant I'd like a readers digest condensed version
if you could.  Thanks in advance.

--
John Welch, N9JZW

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Subject: Hambrew es QRPp Review


Gang,

I received a few days ago in the mail two items:  QRPp - Journal of the
Northern California QRP Club and Hambrew - for Amateur Radio Designers
and Builders.

Let me give my impressions of both, and these are my impressions and
mine alone.

                        HAMBREW                  QRPp

Date                    Autumn 1993              December 1993
Pages (including cover) 48 pages                 60 pages
Size                    5.5"W x 8.5"H            5.5"W x 8.5"H
Weight                  2.7oz                    2.3oz
                        (weighed on electronic postal scale)
Postage, if mailed 1st  $0.75                    $0.75
      I don't have the 3rd class rates........
Paper                   60lb slick               20lb nongloss
Pictures                3 full page shots B&W    No full page photos
                          including F&B covers
                        22 B&W Photos (good qua.) 1 B&W Photo (scanned)
                        total space of 10 pgs     about 1/3 page total
Cartoons                2/3 of a page total      none
Advertising             4.5 pages                none

HAMBREW ARTICLES (already table of contents posted to net)
  1.  Ramsey 30 Meter Transmitter Kit Review - Ramsey might go
  after them after this one.  They changed the box (RS), added LED
  pwr, and other stuff to really canabalize (sp?) the thing.  I
  personally don't think the results could be counted as a Ramsey
  kit.  :-)  I really didn't like the way they split the article
  after one page and continued toward the last of the publication.
  They did this in a bunch of places.  A definite turnoff for me.

  2.  Zapp The DX With The Zapper - how to build a mobile antenna
  for about $30 to $50 using PVC es stuff.  "The Zapper" a play
  on the "Bug Catcher".  ;-)  Cute.

  3.  The NorthWest QRP Club "30-30" CW Transmitter by KG7CR.
  A crystal controlled QRP rig.  2.5 pages including one page
  for schematic and parts list and .5 page for winding toroids.
  Not much meat at all, like maybe a PC board layout for those
  who are interested.

  And other articles, which I leave for the others in the group
  to give us their feedback on.  I wasn't too thrilled myself,
  but that's just me, I'm sure.

QRPp Articles (already a table of contents posted to the net, I think)
  1.  A bunch of articles by various people from this group, including
  yours truly.  So, a bunch of it will be review for those who read
  this group.
  2.  Article by Wayne Burdick, N6KR, designer and father of the
  NorCal 40 Rig!  This article alone is worth the $5 price for a
  whole years subscription to the newsxxxxx  ooops, Journal of
  the Northern California QRP Club.  :-)  Four pages of the description
  of the circuits and two full pages for the schematics.  So, those of
  you who did not get to buy the kit, here's your chance to get a
  look at it.  No PC board layout.  We'll let Wayne worry about that
  deal.  It's his puppy, so to speak.
  3.  Three and a half pages on an Audio Filter by Jim Pepper, W6QIF,
  including graphs of frequency responses and circuit diagrams.
  4.  Three and a half pages with NorCal Club members, numbers,
  and addresses.  I see some of you there in the list.  Who's who of
  the internet.  :-)

  And I didn't want to get too detailed in the reviews.

  Summary.  Hambrew - $20 per year, four issues sent 3rd CLASS mail.
            QRPp    - $5  per year, four issues sent 1st CLASS mail.

I enjoyed the QRPp more and spent more time wading through it, since
it has more print and more info and a lot fewer pictures and advertising.

Hambrew, P.O. Box 260083, Lakewood, CO 80226-0083 $20/yr
QRPp, Jim Cates, WA6GER, 3241 Eastwood Rd., Sacramento, CA  95821 $5/yr

I don't think that Hambrew is aimed or going to attempt to do much for
the QRP crowd.  I got a call from George De Grazio, WF0K, Publisher,
after I called on his 800-5-HAM-RIG number to see where my copy was.
I received a copy first class mail a few days letter with note that
this was a sample issue.  What?  I paid $20 for one year plus a bonus
issue.  Does he not have me down as a regular subscriber?  Those of
you who have not received your issue, call him.  Since they are being
sent 3RD Class mail and we know what the US Postal Service does to
third class mail, I'd check up on it.

Oh.  There will be no back issues of QRPp.  Issue will be mailed
out Dec 1, 1993 first class mail.  Be sure to get your money in
post haste.

DISCLAIMER:  I am a member of the NorCal Club, but I don't get anything
special from them, so this is a review on what I have seen.  The above
is my opinion(s) and I'd be glad to have anyone in this group that has
seen the Hambrew issue and disagrees with the review, let US know.  I
make errors, but rarely.  :-)

dit  dit
SIG
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Chuck Adams, K5FO - CP60
[e-mail]
QRP ARCI Awards Chairman




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Subject: K5FO Special


Gang,

Here is a teaser.  Are you interested?

The K5FO special is a modified single board version of the
NN1G rig, with some mods.  Board about 3.5x5.5", but not layed
out yet in final form.

1.  Single Band XCVR  80/40/30/20 versions
2.  Single Board
3.  Superhet Receiver
4.  CW Transmitter with QSK
5.  AGC for Receiver
6.  S-Meter
7.  Optional Digital Display for Frequency Readout on another board
8.  Optional area for Curtis 8044ABM chip
9.  KIT available from at least one place and maybe more.  Price target
    to be around $100 US currency.  This includes digital board also, but
    not the Curtis Chip.

Not available until it's published, either in QRP ARCI or the QRPp journal.

I'm just seeing if anyone is interested.

I'm still trying to figure out why one would want to undergo the hassle
of gathering parts and making a board themselves.  Life is too short, unless
it's just for the experience.  Financial reasons, just don't cut it.  It'll
cost one more money in time, energy, gasoline, etc. to do it alone.  But
that's just my opinion.  So, for those of you who just gotta do it that
way, I'll let you.  But, please don't rush me on this one.  I've got a
prototype of everything, but I'm laying out the board.  Shooting for
no jumpers and a fit for my case.

I told Wayne Burdick and Doug Hendricks that I could write a program to
do the board layout, just like I did the schematic routines that I have.
Told them I'd do it in two days.  Took me about four, 'cuz of my schedule.
:-)  It's written all in C, but it's not an autorouter.  I did that 20 years
ago and I don't wanna do that ever again.  That's why you don't see anyone
publish articles in ANY journal on how to do it, they develop their own
routines and then go into business selling the binaries.

Last week, I got my system upgraded from a 33MIPS to an 85MIPS processor.
Talk about a screaming machine!!  Right there on the desk top too.  When
I taught EE in 1975, at that time I told the students in 10 years they
would have the power of the IBM 360/50 on their desk.  That came true.
Now we have the power of the first CRAY supercomputer available at a
significantly reduced price.

So, you now know what the K5FO Special is.  Inquiring minds wanted to
know.  The idea for the digital board is also being used by someone
else that I talk to.  Great minds run.........

Another article to follow shortly on upcoming contests, for the contest
crowd.  Doug wants an article on how to setup for contests.  I'm not
the expert, but I'll start it and the rest can join in.  We'll make
it a net effort.  Everybody welcome to throw in their two cents worth.
NO CONTEST FLAMES PLEASE............  Let's think positive.

OH.  For those of you interested.  I went to a DX club meeting today (Saturday)
and they mentioned that the CW ops on 40 meters were writing to CQ magazine
complaining about SSB ops way way down in the band for the CQ WW Test a few
weeks ago.  If you were affected(effected), you might want to join in on
the protest.  I think I will, cuz the 7040 frequency was constantly occupied.
It's not enough that we gotta fight the digital guys tooooooo.  :-)

ciao from k5fo/qrp on vacation for one week ( oh oh, the guy is gonna be
prolific (sp?) now)..........

SIG
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[e-mail]
QRP ARCI Awards Chairman




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Subject:  R2/T2

On 11-09-93, [e-mail] wrote to [e-mail]:

>------------------------------------
and am now building up
a few of the R2 and T2 boards.  I am including

>------------------------------------

Not having a test lab, I'm scared off of these by only one thing:  the
matching of the inductors (and capacitors, but this is less of a problem
since close tolerance units are available).

What's the easiest way to measure inductors (and capacitors) precisely in
this value range, reasonably cheaply?  (Or, more accurately, provide
relative readings for matching?)  I have:  a couple digital multimeters,
an old Tek 533 scope, and could build an audio oscillator.

The only other obstacle is buying lots of the inductors to match 'em.  I
wonder if the Toko adjustable inductors from Digi-Key would work?  Would
the Q's, wire resistances, and other differences throw off the filter
design?

John K0JD


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Sorry gang.  Didn't mean to scare anyone.  It does have RIT, I
promise it does.  You can't live without RIT.  It's the sign of
the times.  Too many people don't know how offsets work.  Someone
on this group could do an article for the newbies and the OFs on
how this offset and RIT stuff works.  What does it mean +/- RIT?
I'm writing other things.  YOU DO IT.


:-)

SIG
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Chuck Adams, K5FO - CP60
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QRP ARCI Awards Chairman




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From: [e-mail] (Andrew Sargent N8OFS)
Subject: Any MARS Members???
To: [e-mail] (boatanchors )
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Hello again gang,

I was wondering if I could find any MARS members on 'boatanchors' or
the 'qrp' mailing lists.

BTW, anybody know of any other mailing lists besides these two and
'cq-contest'?

--
Tell Me Something I Don't Know,           ! HAM    =       N8OFS
Show Me Something I Can Use,              ! ARMY MARS = AAN5HJT
Push The Buttons,                         ! CB =        THE NEON KNIGHT
Connect The God-Damn Dots!!!  -  Ministry ! HACKER =    TH3 N30N KN16Ht

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Well, I got my Norcal 40 kit in the mail on Friday.  After sorting out
the parts, it took me a total of about 5 hours to build it for the
Novice band.  I hooked it up, and the receiver worked immediately, with
about a 35 KHZ band spread.  I tried the transmitter - no go.  An hour
later, I discovered that I hadn't stripped the insulation from one of
the transmit-mixer toroids completely. :-(  Once I got THAT fixed,
everything worked fine - about 2 watts out.  I haven't tried any
QSO's yet, since the antenna connection at this point consists of me
pressing the PL-259 up against the BNC connector.  :-)  The
Troubleshooting section and schematic were infinately helpful.

   My first impression is that the sensitivity of the kit is pretty
good - I could hear anything that I could pick out on my MFJ rig, with
the exception of the very weakest signals.  As I haven't completely
aligned it yet, that may change, too.  The transmitted signal has a very
nice note to it.

   I'll provide some further comments after I actually get the rig on
the air after work tomorrow.  Look for N2VDS on the air.  :-)

- Rich


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From: [e-mail] (Michael S. Dooley)
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Subject: Slugs pace

Howard and all...
    A slugs pace... 2400 bps... <grin> <no, BIG GRIN>... I remember when
I upgraded from 110 to 300 bps.  Boy, an almost threefold increase!
THen, SEVERAL years later the 1200 bps MODEMS came within reach... The
no-names dipped under $100.00... and I upgraded... THEN, just 3 months
ago I bought a new, Hayes, 2400B internal at Sams for the unheard of
sum of $25.00.  Thats right 2400 for $25.00.
    Ya' know, I have access to the 9600 and 14.4 stuff at work, but I
still remember that old 110 bps MODEM from just 10 years ago [sniff].
Gosh I'm glad it's gone!!!
Mike Dooley KE4PC
[e-mail]

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Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1993 21:25:12 +0000 (GMT)
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>
> Howard and all...
>     A slugs pace... 2400 bps... <grin> <no, BIG GRIN>... I remember when
> I upgraded from 110 to 300 bps.

*** And I remember when I homebrewed my first modem. 300 bps... No,
actually  0-600 bps.  I used this trick Motorola chip that had 90%
of the circuitry in it.  So what if I had to build my own hybrids and
active filters!  I've still got the thing, too.  Can't seem to bring
myself to throw it away.  Although now that I think of it, there just
might be an 80M crystal in there....

                             - Jerry Kaidor
--
***************************************************************
* Jerry Kaidor       [e-mail], [e-mail]     *
*                    KF6VB                                    *
***************************************************************

From [e-mail]  Mon Nov 15 01:17:19 1993
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    id AA08187; Sun, 14 Nov 93 22:16:43 PST
Date: Sun, 14 Nov 93 22:16:43 PST
From: [e-mail] (Doug Hendricks)
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: QRPp Dec. Issue

Gang, Issue #3 of QRPp will be mailed Dec. 1st, 1993.  It is back from the
printers, and now I need to collate, fold, staple, and address all of the
pages.  It is 60 pages long, as Chuck has said.  We now have 172 members of
NorCal QRP club, and 143 subscribers to QRPp, the Journal of the NorCal QRP
Club.  If you are interested in joining NorCal, membership is free, but to
receive the Journal, QRPp, which is published 4 times per year, we ask that
you pay a $5 subscription to offset the costs of printing and mailing.
     The goal of QRPp is to provide information about QRP.  It is not to make
money as you can obviously see from the amount that we charge.  I subscribe
to most of the QRP magazines, and will say that QRPp is not designed to take
the place of any of them, just as a vehicle to dessiminate information.
     I started the Journal for several reasons, one of which was that I wanted
to see if I could do it.  There seemed to be a void here on the West Coast as
far as QRP groups go, and NorCal was in the right place at the right time.  I
also felt that there were many talented people that I knew who had information
that deserved to be printed and preserved.  It is a crime to not share the
wealth of your knowledge with others.  Another reason for the journal was the
advice of Jim Fitton, W1FMR.  Jim help me tremendously when Jim Cates, Wayne
Burdick and I were forming NorCal.  In fact, he is still helping me.  Jim
told me that to start a QRP club and make it successful, you needed several
ingredients.  First a coordinator, second a newsletter editor, and third, a
technical advisor.  Boy was he ever right.  We took his advice to the letter,
and look what has happened with NorCal QRP Club.
     Chuck Adams posted a review of the December issue of QRPp.  I appreciate
his comments, and I have a suggestion.  If you want QRP information take your
$20 and join the NW QRP Club, the NE QRP Club and NorCal QRP Club.  You will
get a lot more information that pertains to QRP.  If you want to receive the
December issue of QRPp, Jim Cates must have your application and $5 by Nov.
24, 1993.  He needs your name, call, address, city, state, and zipcode.
Jim's address is:
        Jim Cates, WA6GER
        3241 Eastwood Rd.
        Sacramento, CA 95821

Jim is the Coordinator of NorCal QRP Club.  I am the editor of the QRPp, but
Jim gets all the money and pays all the bills.  Have a good week, and keep
the mail coming.
72, Doug

From [e-mail]  Mon Nov 15 09:38:43 1993
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    for [e-mail] id AA01744; Mon, 15 Nov 93 06:38:36 -0800
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Date: Mon, 15 Nov 93 08:38:31 -0600
From: [e-mail] (Chuck Adams)
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Hambrew Revisited


Gang,

Something bothered me last week in doing the review of QRPp and
Hambrew.

I noted that there was an article on a mobile antenna called "The
Zapper".  In fact the article title is "Zapp The DX With The Zapper"
by Larry Feick, NF0Z.  It bothered me that the diagram looked familiar,
almost like a commercial product I had seen somewhere, but wasn't sure.
In fact, it kept bothering me until this morning very very early (I'm
ashamed to admit I was up so early) I just whipped out the pile of
journals and mags and what do you know?  Yep.  The QRP Quarterly, January
1990, page 7 and 1/4 of page 8, is the same article.  So, looks like
we are getting recycled articles.  Letter off to George to let him
know what I think of that.  :-)

So, I'm up for a refund myself.  Let you know how it goes.

73 fer now es cul de k5fo    dit   dit
SIG
------cut here----------
Chuck Adams, K5FO - CP60
[e-mail]
QRP ARCI Awards Chairman




From [e-mail]  Mon Nov 15 10:11:08 1993
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    id AA11471; Mon, 15 Nov 93 08:10:26 MST
    id AA25109; Mon, 15 Nov 93 08:10:29 MST
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 93 08:10:29 MST
From: Doug Datwyler <[e-mail]>
Message-Id: <9311151510.AA25109@moons>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Hambrew

As I said before, I think Hambrew sucks, but maybe it can be made better.

Doug Datwyler WR7O
[e-mail]

From [e-mail]  Mon Nov 15 13:14:09 1993
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From: [e-mail] (Randy)
Subject: flea market yummies
To: [e-mail]
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1993 13:12:50 -0500 (EST)
Cc: [e-mail] (Peter Keyes)
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I was at the Scara flea market ( the one in CT ) and came home with all
kinds of antique transistors.
 Rather than send the whole list and info on them HERE, I'll E-mail
individually to anyone interested..
 Wow..I stepped back in time seeing those 60's transistors.

Also got chassies, tubes and this-n-thats to start making 3-4 watt xmits
and receivers ( even the IF xformers too!)


--
Randy KA1UNW              If you get a shock while
                         servicing  your  equipment,         "Works for me!"
randy@192.153.4.200             DON'T  JUMP!                     -Peter Keyes
                     You might break an expensive tube!

From [e-mail]  Mon Nov 15 14:45:20 1993
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    id AA06982; Mon, 15 Nov 93 13:40:33 CST
    id AA01271; Mon, 15 Nov 93 13:40:32 CST
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 93 13:40:32 CST
From: [e-mail] (Mike Strong)
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: flea market yummies

Randy, congratulations on the great finds at the Scara flea market.  I was at
the Houston Ham-Commvention on Saturday looking forward to finding parts, tubes
and crystals.  I was really disappointed in the flea market.  No tubes, no small
parts.  Was finally able to find a couple of 40m Novide band crystals, but that
was about it.

The commercial exhibit was much better.  In addition to the big displays by the
big 3, MFJ had a big set-up.  Was able to play around with the MFJ qrp rigs.
Also got to talk to the folks from Mr. Nicad about gel cels and chargers, etc.

The HIGH point of the day was finding the exhibit by Tejas Electronics, makers
of the BackPacker 2.  I think I have the name of the company right.  Even saw
pictures of the famous BackPacker 2 owned, built and operated by Chuck Adams.
We yacked about QRP in general and Chuck in particular for 15 minutes.  There
was a constant stream of self-professed satisfied customers coming by the table.
There seems to be a lot of interest in QRP here in Houston, if the activity at
the Tejas table is any indication.

BTW, Tejas sells hard to find small parts (air variables, verniers, power trans-
istors, small cabinets, etc.) that are not in his catalog.  You might drop him
a line if you are interested.  I don't have his catalog here at work, so I
can't post his address.  I'll try to remember the catalog tomorrow if anyone
is interested in his address/phone number, etc.

Back to work.

72 de Mike   KT5H     [e-mail]

From [e-mail]  Mon Nov 15 16:12:12 1993
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    for @sgi.sgi.com:[e-mail] id AA28000; Mon, 15 Nov 93 15:12:00 -0600
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Date: Mon, 15 Nov 93 15:11:50 -0600
From: [e-mail] (Chuck Adams)
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To: [e-mail]
Subject: Mike KT5H's post


Gang,

wow, rumors grow.  Pictures must of been of the first Backpacker I
that I built.  I never owned a II.  :-)

ciao,
SIG
------cut here----------
Chuck Adams, K5FO - CP60
[e-mail]
QRP ARCI Awards Chairman




From [e-mail]  Mon Nov 15 16:56:29 1993
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          Nov 1993 15:55:45 CST
To: [e-mail]
From: [e-mail] (Kevin Anderson -7325)
Subject: FOR SALE: HW-8 (repost from rec.radio.swap)
Date:
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>

this is from rec.radio.swap.  Should interest someone on here
if they work fast.  Do not e-mail me, but call the seller
please.

Kevin Anderson, kb9iua


--- Forwarded message follows ---
From: [e-mail] (Steve Ford)
Subject: FOR SALE: HW-8
Date: 15 Nov 93 15:11:28 EST

FOR SALE: Heath HW-8 QRP transceiver.

Operates on 80, 40, 20 and 15 meters with 2 watts output. Direct
conversion receiver. CW only.

Excellent condition, power supply and manual included.

$90

Call Dave Patterson at [phone] after 6pm. You can also
fax anytime at [phone].

(This message posted on behalf of the seller. He does not have
Internet access.)

--Steve, WB8IMY
ARRL

From [e-mail]  Mon Nov 15 17:55:33 1993
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          15 Nov 93 17:49 EST
    id AA29664; Mon, 15 Nov 93 17:49:58 EST
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 93 17:49:58 EST
From: [e-mail]
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  K5FO Special
Cc: [e-mail]

Count me in.  I missed out on getting the NorCal 40, and I am interested in
the at-or-under 100 dollar qrp kit.  But make sure it has a good dial
mechanism  and calibration, in case I order it w/o the digital option,
to save $.

How about some kind of transmit indication?  Did you mention sidetone?
Audio filter?

72, Kalman

------------------------------
Kalman Laudon WD6CZI in 2 land
<[e-mail]>
------------------------------


From [e-mail]  Mon Nov 15 18:36:43 1993
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Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1993 17:36:19 -0600
From: Arnett <[e-mail]>
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail], [e-mail]
Subject: SSB qrp

Here's a question I got from a local friend.  I don't think 20m is doing too
bad (except for last weekend, when due to a mental lapse I was QRO from
W9YH for the WAE RTTY tst.  Propagation just wasn't there Saturday as we
only worked 3 European stn's.)

----begin forwarded mail-----

From [e-mail] Mon Nov 15 14:50:27 1993
  (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for <[e-mail]>); Mon, 15 Nov 1993 14:49:33 -0600
  (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for [e-mail]); Mon, 15 Nov 1993 14:49:10 -0600
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Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1993 14:47:41 -0600
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
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From: [e-mail] (william r finch)
To: [e-mail]
Subject: QRP - fact or fiction?
Reply-To: [e-mail]
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Status: R



I was just wondering how the QRP stuff is going. I am thinking about
doing some QRP SSB on 20, but wondering if it's worth the trouble.
Is 20 open these days? Do QRP stations get eaten alive? Inquiring
minds want to know...   73's de KF9KI


---end forwarded msg------

You can mail Bill, KF9KI, at [e-mail].

Thanks a bunch!
Drew Arnett
[e-mail]  Champaign, IL
(and sometimes heard from W9YH)

ps.  I'm sending BIll the e-mail list subscription info.  Hey, if anyone can
work QRP during SS phone, then it must be possible...


From [e-mail]  Mon Nov 15 20:17:32 1993
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    (5.65c+/10jsm) id AA24504; Mon, 15 Nov 1993 20:14:12 -0500
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1993 20:14:12 -0500
From: david jerome adams <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail], [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  K5FO Special
Cc: [e-mail]

Could someone fill me in on the k5fo kit?  I must have missed that message.

Dave

From [e-mail]  Mon Nov 15 21:18:53 1993
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Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1993 20:52:38 -0500 (EST)
From: howie cahn <[e-mail]>
Subject: QRP contest operating techniques
To: [e-mail]
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    I posed this question about qrp contest operating practices to the
cq-contest reflector last week. I'd like to get a different perspective
from people on this list.

    Running between 1/2 and 4 watts, I'm quite a bit weaker than the 'big
gun' contest stations. Particularly on weak paths, I can hear them, say,
S8 to S9, while they hear me at S2 or S3. During the SS I was
experimenting with different ways of sending exchanges to complete QSO's
most efficiently for both of us. Conventional wisdom says not to repeat
information unless asked. Under marginal conditions I tried doing the
following:

    a. routinely repeating info on the first try that I thought was
likely to be missed.
    b. if asked to repeat something, I'd sometimes keep repeating it
until the receiving station acknowledged receipt. (I have good QSK and can
hear them fine.)

    I think these things helped; both in cutting down the number of
fills required, and most importantly, cutting down the number of QSO's
lost when the other op gave up on me.

    Anyone have any opinions??

    Thanks/73,

    howie, wb2cpu
    [e-mail]



From [e-mail]  Mon Nov 15 22:20:40 1993
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   Mon, 15 Nov 93 22:20:18 EST
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 93 14:37:58 PST
From: [e-mail]
To: [e-mail]
Subject: RE: K5FO Special

> I'm just seeing if anyone is interested.

Yeah!  Sounds super... as long as the rcvr's not an NE602 special.  Too
many AM stations around the bay area to fool with.

> I'm still trying to figure out why one would want to undergo the hassle
> of gathering parts and making a board themselves.  Life is too short, unless
> it's just for the experience.  Financial reasons, just don't cut it.  It'll
> cost one more money in time, energy, gasoline, etc. to do it alone.  But
> that's just my opinion.  So, for those of you who just gotta do it that
> way, I'll let you.  But, please don't rush me on this one.  I've got a
> prototype of everything, but I'm laying out the board.  Shooting for
> no jumpers and a fit for my case.

Your absolutely right, Chuck.  $100 is a great price for a kit like this.
Only problem is, it seems like for us newbees with limited funds, it's
$100 for this, $25 for that, another $50 for something else... Phew...
it adds up quick.  And when you try to tell the XYL (whose not a ham btw),
uh hum, well you know what I mean. They seem to think it's more important
to keep shoes on the kids and things like that then to buy ham gear.

And yeah....  Some of us haven't etch too many boards to be tired of it
yet.  I've only etch about 3 board personally, so it's still fun doing
it.  And chasing after parts is kind of challenging too, especially when
you can't find something, encourages one to experiement a little.

I've put a few kits together that came with ALL the parts included.  Didn't
even learn anything about how the ciruit worked.  Just plug in the parts,
solder, cut leads, plug in some more parts, solder, cut leads.  Sounds
sort of mundane.

Guess it all depends on how you look at it.  What do they say about taking
trips?  Sometimes half the fun is in getting there?  I guess I enjoy the
building process as much or more then the end result, while many others I'm
sure just want to get it done and over with so they can use the new rig.
After a few more dozen years and a few more dozen projects, I'll probably
be like that too, but for now...

So whenever you complete the project Chuck I sure will be happy if I can
get the schematics, pcb template, and parts list.  Would you consider selling
a kit with just the parts and a copy of the pcb TEMPLATE?  (I had to ask..)


Tnx & 73,
km6wt - mont,      [e-mail]

From [e-mail]  Tue Nov 16 06:56:44 1993
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  (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for <[e-mail]>); Tue, 16 Nov 1993 06:56:25 -0500
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1993 06:56:25 -0500
From: Brad Mitchell <[e-mail]>
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Naming the  K5FO Special

Well I gotta give Chuck a little credit!
He wants to let us people that want to make p.c. boards happy
even if he doesn't necessarily agree with the process!
As I told Chuck, rumors must not be true, there is some kindness
in that Texan blood somewhere. %:-)

I think that's a good qrp spirit to bring this k5fo sp-1 into light.
btw is that the correct designation for this rig?

73 all Brad WB8YGG

From [e-mail]  Tue Nov 16 08:14:32 1993
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Date: Tue, 16 Nov 93 07:14:18 -0600
From: [e-mail] (Chuck Adams)
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Name the Rig


Gang,

I never thought much about the name.  NN1G came out with the
NN1G Mark II, which I assume will be in the next issue of the
quarterly due out in January 1994.  I don't know if you realize
it, but it's about time for another year to be down the tubes. :-)

Everybody seems to be naming rigs after their call signs.  Guess it
gives them immortality or something like that.  I open to suggestions.
For now I'm thinking of calling it the K5FO+1, cause the K5FO-1 (is that
K5FO one? K5FO minus one? ....).  Or maybe the K5FO.1 pronounced
"K5FO dot 1".  Great minds are working on this one.  :-)  OK, average
minds are working on this one.

I'll make the PostScript copy of the PC board available, so you hackers
can have fun.  I'm shooting for 3.5x4.5" board size.  All resisitors
laid out flat for the newbies and all the same length, so if you wanna
use the resistor guide, you know - the red triangular critter that
allows to fold the leads over to a specified length, but I find that
boring and can look at two holes on a board and fold the leads perfectly
everytime.  That's when you know you've built too much.  :-)

MY favorite two tools.  A pair of diagonal cutters ("dikes", but isn't
that a term used for something else nowdays?) from Sears.  These allow
me to cut leads off the board as close as I want, and I mean CLOSE.
A pair of chain-nose pliers.  These are the very very pointed and small
pliars used for bending leads, getting critters that you've dropped out
of the far corners of rig.  It seems that dropped parts follow Murphey's
Law - where can I hide or lodge myself where the owner will expend the
most time, energy, and effort to get me loose?

OK, back to my vacation.

73  dit   dit

SIG
------cut here----------
Chuck Adams, K5FO - CP60
[e-mail]
QRP ARCI Awards Chairman




From [e-mail]  Tue Nov 16 11:33:02 1993
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   Tue, 16 Nov 93 11:32:23 EST
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 93 08:30:17 PST
From: [e-mail]
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Name the rig

I thought "K5FO Special" was a pretty good name.  :)


km6wt

From [e-mail]  Tue Nov 16 11:51:54 1993
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Date: Tue, 16 Nov 93 08:54:04 PST
From: Spence S Wilhelm <[e-mail]>
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: fun with simple direct conversion receivers


Text item: Text_1

I have been building a 30 meter direct conversion receiver.
I got the idea from reading articles in QST and 73 mag about
two receivers that use NE602 and LM386 audio chips, the
Sudden Receiver and the Neophyte Receiver.  So far I have
been reluctant to purchase a kit, the engineer in me makes
me try crazy things like building from scratch.  It has taken
me about a week to get the board prepared and populated with
components.  Last night I finished by adding an antenna jack
and fired the receiver up.  Initially I heard only a loud
hiss from the audio amplifier, bummer.  On a whim I replaced
the NE602 and immediately heard a short wave broadcast
station.  It took only a few minutes to get to get the thing
aligned and it works!  I'm hooked.  All night long I dreamed
about QRP home brew.  Now I have plans to add a transmitter,
RIT, AGC, QSK,...  Come to think of it maybe buying a kit
isn't such a bad idea. :-)

73,

kb7tcy, spence wilhelm

[e-mail]


From [e-mail]  Tue Nov 16 12:38:32 1993
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Date: Tue, 16 Nov 93 12:16:50 EST
From: [e-mail] (Edward Pacyna)
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: uunet!Think.COM![e-mail]
Subject: Commerical SSB Filters
Cc: [e-mail]


For those of you who want to homebrew a SSB transceiver or update an existing
radio, I have some commerical SSB filters for sale.

They are new and have a center frequency of 9.000Mhz. The BW is 2.4KHz and
I believe they are 8 pole. The input/output impedance is 500 ohms. The are
about 1 1/2"L x 1"W x 3/4"H, and metal encased. Price is $48 each shipped in
US.

Ed Pacyna W1AAZ      email: [e-mail]    tel: [phone] x114

From [e-mail]  Tue Nov 16 14:19:18 1993
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Please subscribe

thanks.

ted webb  / AC4CS

[e-mail]

From [e-mail]  Tue Nov 16 16:48:03 1993
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    for @sgi.sgi.com:[e-mail] id AA05761; Tue, 16 Nov 93 15:47:44 -0600
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Date: Tue, 16 Nov 93 15:47:43 -0600
From: [e-mail] (Chuck Adams)
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: NN1G Mark II


Good thing that I didn't copy the board.  Small problem with it.
New boards are being created.  The price for the kit for the NN1G
is going up.

73

SIG
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Chuck Adams, K5FO - CP60
[e-mail]
QRP ARCI Awards Chairman




From [e-mail]  Tue Nov 16 17:53:43 1993
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From: david kohn <[e-mail]>
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Subject: source for DPDT foot sw's
To: [e-mail]
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1993 16:53:11 -0600 (CST)
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Hello folks,

Can anyone recommend a source for DPDT footswitches?
I'd like to be able to switch fx in/out of the signal path...


Thanks much,
Dave Kohn  KG0FK  [e-mail]

From [e-mail]  Tue Nov 16 17:49:48 1993
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Date: Tue, 16 Nov 93 12:49:34 HST
From: Jeff Herman <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Chuck's rig
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>

I bet Chuck is being inundated with questions and requests. I'll make
mine simple: Would you consider just providing the schematic [even for
a fee]. That's it! Just the schematic, nothing else.

Jeff NH6IL

From [e-mail]  Tue Nov 16 21:11:59 1993
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Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1993 20:11:11 -0600
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From: [e-mail] (william r finch)
To: [e-mail]
Subject: MFJ 9420X
Reply-To: [e-mail]



Does anybody have any info on the MFJ 20M SSB rig? Please let me know,
73s de KF9KI

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Date: Tue, 16 Nov 93 18:24:09 -0600
From: [e-mail] (Super-User)
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To: [e-mail]
Subject: Chuck's rig


Schematic ok too.  It's for everyone, come one, come all, come on
down.....  :-)

I'll let everyone know when it's ready.  Remember, I'm on vacation.

:-)  whatever that means---------------------------------^^^^^^^^^^
SIG
------cut here----------
Chuck Adams, K5FO - CP60
[e-mail]
QRP ARCI Awards Chairman




From [e-mail]  Tue Nov 16 23:14:48 1993
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Date: 16 Nov 93 21:19:07 EST
From: "Judy l. Schnabolk" <[e-mail]>
To: QRP List <[e-mail]>
Subject: Receiver PCB's For Sale
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>

Hi Folks

I hope all this for sale posting is OK. Just trying to clear out some stuff
I don't plan to get
around to using that my be of interest to you QRP homebrewers.

I have two sets of PCB boards to build a compact receiver. The boards are
for a receiver
that orginally appeared in Ham Radio 11/83 and in the Radio Handbook by
Editors and
Engineers (Bill Orr W6SAI) in chapter 10 (Portable and Mobile Equipment).
The boards
are as follows.

1.   Main board is 3 5/16"  x  2" and has the circuitry for a grounded base
FET RF amp.,
      MOSFet mixer, MOSFet IF amp., MOSFet Product detector , LM386 audio
amp. and
      an audio derived agc.

2.   VFO board is 1 9/16" x  1 7/8" and has the circuitry for a FET hartley
oscillator and
      a MOSFet amp/buffer.

3a  BFO board is 9/16" x  1 1/4" and has the circuitry for a FET crystal
oscillator.
3b  BFO board is 1 3/16" x  1 1/16" and has the circuitry for a FET
oscillator using a
     455KHz ceramic resonator.

4.  Active antenna board is 1 7/16" x  1 1/16" and has the circuitry for a
MOSFet volt-
    age probe antenna. Note: only needed if you want to use receiver with a
whip ant.

There is a lot of flexibility with this receiver. It can be constructed
very small (enclosure
2" x 2" x 4" or less), varied band plans (i.e. 9Mhz or 45KHz IF) and for
20/80M or any
band for that matter. It would make a nice receiver for travel, net
monitoring, or use with
a companion transmiter.

I have two sets available as follows:

1. Board #'s 1, 2, 3a and 4  for $15
2. Board #'s 1,3b and 4 (no VFO board) for $12

Boards are soder plated and drilled and include a copy of articles above.

Ed W1AAZ     Reply to:  [e-mail]    or     [phone] x114 days

From [e-mail]  Tue Nov 16 23:27:06 1993
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Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1993 22:26:15 -0600
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From: [e-mail] (william r finch)
To: [e-mail]
Subject: MFJ 9240
Reply-To: [e-mail]



Greetings, I posted a message earlier requesting info about the MFJ 9240.
I saw when I got my copy that the return address was missing, so here it is:
[e-mail]  Thanks and 73s de KF9KI

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NAME: Ted Webb
Call: AC4CS
EMail: [e-mail]
QRP RIGS(s): None at present but  lots of wires
Interests: building small projects, designing operating aids, antennas,
chasing DX
Comments: New to QRP    - looking for starter projects for portable
operation

From [e-mail]  Wed Nov 17 00:10:18 1993
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Message-Id: <9311170108.AA23817@itgmsm>
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Subject: RE: K5FO Special
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 93 17:08:00 PST
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Chuck Adams writes:

> Here is a teaser.  Are you interested?
>
> The K5FO special is a modified single board version of the
> NN1G rig, with some mods.  Board about 3.5x5.5", but not layed
> out yet in final form.
(lots of nice stuff deleted...)

Yes.

One thought on kits for this: in my homebrew travels, it's usually the
active components that are the hard ones to find. I'm currently homebrewing
a 30m superhet, and though my junkbox doesn't contain many dual-gate
MOSFETS, it contains all the resistors and capacitors and stuff I need. I
even stole some nifty switches from a dead tv set.

So how would people feel about a semi-kit: say, a PC board and the stuff
that is known to be hard to come by, and you can scrounge the rest.

> OH.  For those of you interested.  I went to a DX club meeting today
> (Saturday)
> and they mentioned that the CW ops on 40 meters were writing to CQ
magazine
> complaining about SSB ops way way down in the band for the CQ WW Test a
few
> weeks ago.  If you were affected(effected), you might want to join in on
> the protest.  I think I will, cuz the 7040 frequency was constantly
occupied.
> It's not enough that we gotta fight the digital guys tooooooo.  :-)

I heard some folks on 3705 LSB the other night and was not impressed. Though
us Canadians are only restricted by the bandwidth of our signals and are not
bound by U.S. band plans, plunking oneself down in the midst of the Novice
band (and being quite rude about it) is just not cool. And with propagation
the way it was, these folks (VE2s) were running at least the legal limit for
me to be able to hear them.

73 from Burnaby
laura VE7LDH apologizing for the behaviour of some of her countrypeople

From [e-mail]  Wed Nov 17 00:20:52 1993
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    id AAA18884; Wed, 17 Nov 1993 00:20:48 -0500
Date: 16 Nov 93 22:10:50 EST
From: "Judy l. Schnabolk" <[e-mail]>
To: QRP List <[e-mail]>
Subject: Commerical Filter For Sale - Update
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>

1.  9 Mhz SSB crystal filters. Made by Showa, model SF0922B. Center
frequency is
     9.000 MHz, Input / Output Z is 500 ohms. I recall these are 8 pole
filters with a
     2.2KHz BW. Size is 1 3/8 L x  3/4W x  13/16H. Filers are new and $48
each.

2.  CW crystal filters. Made by Fox Tango, model YF91H250. Center frequency
is
     8999.3KHz, Input / Output Z is 500 ohms and the BW is 250Hz. These
were made
     for the Yaesu FT301 or FT7B transceivers. Size is 1 9/16L x  3/4W x
13/16H.
     Filters are new and  $58 each.

3.  Mystery Filter. All I know is what is says on the box. Made by Collins,
crystal filter,
     P/N 526701800, Type X420KD126, Customer P/N 293084500. Filter is new
and
     3L x  1 1/16W x 3/4H.  Price is $10 or BO

4.  Monolithic Crystal Filters by Motorola. The center frequency is 17.9MHz
. These are
     about the size of HC18U crystals and have 3 wire terminals(In, Out,
Gnd) and Input
     Output Z of 1500 ohms (matches NE602's). Following are specifications
from some
     notes I had. The BW's are on the wide side. They would be great for
AM, will           eliminate the unwanted sideband for SSB or CW, can be
followed by a narrow filter
     for added selectivity, or used as one of the filters in a pass band
tuning schema.

     a)  6 pole 2 filter set ( uses a 2 pole and 4 pole filter in tandem).
CF = 17.900Mhz,
          BW = +/- 5KHz @ 3 db and +/- 30KHz @ 80 db, Ripple 1.5 db and IL
= 4 db
          Input/output Z = 1500 ohms.

     b)  4 pole 2 filter set (uses two 2 pole filters in tandem). CF =
17.900MHz, BW =
          +/- 5.5KHz @ 6 db and +/- 30KHz @ 64 db. Ripple = 1.5 db and IL =
3 db.
          Input/output Z = 1500 ohms.

     Filter sets are new and either set is $10 or BO.

Contact  [e-mail]   or  [phone] x114  (day phone)

From [e-mail]  Wed Nov 17 08:10:13 1993
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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 93 08:10:22 EST
From: [e-mail] (Doug Snowden)
Message-Id: <9311171310.AA05686@pd2>
To: [e-mail], [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  Chuck's rig

I'm for that. I'm always curious about how things are done, even if I don't
build the thing. Doug, N4IJ

From [e-mail]  Wed Nov 17 09:27:09 1993
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    id AA22564; Wed, 17 Nov 93 08:26:00 CST
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 93 08:26:00 CST
From: [e-mail] (Mike Strong)
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Apologies to Chuck

Ok, Chuck, sorry for mis-identifying your Backpacker rig in my previous post.
Since he had a Backpacker 2 on display, and the picture of your rig was right
next to the display rig, I assumed yours was a '2'.  Just goes to show you
that the old saying about assuming is correct.

For those of you who asked, here are the addresses and phone numbers for Tejas
RF Technology (I got the name of this company wrong in my previous post too.
Geuss my memory is not what it once was!).  The guy I talked to on Saturday
was Bill Hickock, who is a really great guy.  ( I do remember that :-)!).

   Mailing Address:
   P.O. Box 720331
   Houston, Tx   77272-0331

   Shipping Address:
   10535 Rockley Road, Suite 103
   Houston, Tx   77099

   Telephone:  [phone]
   Fax:        [phone]

   Hours:  M-F 0900 - 1700 Central Time

The usual disclaimer.  I am not associated in any way with Tejas RF Technology
in any way, but thought it would be a good idea to 'spread the word'.

72 de KT5H,  Mike   [e-mail]

From [e-mail]  Wed Nov 17 09:33:45 1993
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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1993 08:35:22 -0600 (CST)
From: "JEFF M. GOLD" <[e-mail]>
Subject: good laugh
To: [e-mail]
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Well guys and gals, wasn't going to admitt it, but I am anyway.

I finished up the NorCal 40 last nite.. was having a real bad day and
should have stayed out of the shack.. guess I am to dumb to learn. I
keep trying to believe in science and feel you should be able to have a
bad day and not have it linked to doing really stupid things.

Well .. checked the bottom of the board with my magnifying glass, didn't
see any problems. I had hooked up the optional 3 parts to get rid of the
birdie. plugged in the power supply and flipped the switch. Never seen
so much smoke from such a small project in all my born days.  Not being
all that unfamiliar with the generation of high quantities of smoke
using small components.. I immediately looked for a fried choke.  Sure
enough, fried RFC1.. BIG TIME..  Well traced a teeney weeney solder
bridge to the modification and promptly unmodified it.

Also didn't find the problem right away and fried my stock of chokes..
all sizes and all shapes. About had to keep the fire extinguisher handy.
My son never enjoyed ham radio so much in the last 2 years as he did
watching me turn on the power supply and watching the billows of smoke
rise from the board and cover the work bench. He would go off and do
something while a replaced the choke and tried to find the problem, and
made me promise to call him the next time I was going to fry something.
Boy was he disappointed when I turned it on and no smoke came out.

Got up about 5:30 this morning and replaced the 3 ne602s and injected a
signal into the rig with my antenna analyzer.. the receiver seems to
work and the volume control, RIT and VFO seem to be doing something..
guess that is a good sign.

Well got a little confident and plugged in a key and turned on the
power.. RFC1 gone again...Is there any chance a mono plug could cause
this to happen.. couldn't find any more bridges.. there were 2 or 3
electrolytic capacitors in the circuit that didn't have the polarity
marked.. do they have to go in a certain way.. looked at the schematic
and couldn't figure how it would make a difference.. but who knows...
HELP.

have a good day.

72

Jeff, AC4HF

From [e-mail]  Wed Nov 17 09:36:06 1993
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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1993 08:37:48 -0600 (CST)
From: "JEFF M. GOLD" <[e-mail]>
Subject: NorCal 40
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forgot,

one more question.. how critical is the value of RFC1.. think I am off
in value by several thousand percent at this point.. ran out of
chokes..need to order some and a few more ne602s

72

Jeff, AC4HF

From [e-mail]  Wed Nov 17 10:15:18 1993
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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 93 10:14:44 -0500
From: [e-mail] (randy kaufman)
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Semi-Kits


I like Laura's idea of the semi-kit, containing PC board(s) and major semiconductors, or other more difficult-to-find parts (like coils?).  My junque-box is
crammed with "bread-and-butter" parts, and I can usually find (or make) knobs,
cases, etc.  Seems like it would be easier to 'kit
a design, too.

73  Randy  Kaufman  WD4LUJ

From [e-mail]  Wed Nov 17 11:07:12 1993
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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 93 10:07:00 CST
From: [e-mail] (Michael S. Dooley)
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Bit Freaks


Chuck's story of the Senir Major EE wanting to know what the large blue
circular thing was reminds me of another story.  Our company had hired
six June brides (recent EE grads) and their new boss wanted them trained
on the largest fiber optic transmission system we build.  They asked me
if I could do the training and how long it would take.  I asked them why
they were training recent grads with NO transmission systems experience
on this system.  To make a long story short, I ended up taking them
from DC to light in a six week training course.  During one phase they
were required to build a cable based on a schematic I had given them.
I supplied the connectors, wire, solder and iron and any other tools they
needed then left them on their own for an hour.  I returned to a bunch of
melted DB25 connectors and only one that was working (precariously).
My initial comment was "it looks like a bunch of engineers have been in
here!"(smile)...  Anyway, we spent the rest of the day learning how
to strip wires, tin, solder and mount parts.... something NONE of them had
learned at school.

Mike Dooley KE4PC

PS as an aside, I've been keeping track of these guys since the class,
because this training is something we'd never done before or since.  Today,
the several engineers we hired at the same time who didn't go through
the course are still engineers.  The three of the six who are still with
us are Product line managers or in senior engineering positions.  I still
say there's virtually no replacement for good, well structured, hands on
training to give new hires the background they need when starting a job.
Sorry if it seems I'm patting myself on the back, but I sure am proud of
how well these guys have done.
Mike
[e-mail]

From [e-mail]  Wed Nov 17 12:59:30 1993
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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 93 17:32:14 GMT
Message-Id: <21701@jek>
From: [e-mail] (Jim Kearman)
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Kits

I discussed the inclusion of cabinets, etc, with one of
the better-known kit manufacturers a few years ago. He
had just started including silk-screened cabinets and
prewound toroids. Personally, I think homemade gear
should look homemade, and if you don't get to wind the
toroids, what's the point of building a kit? You can
get a machine to install the parts on a board, and
another one to solder them. For that matter, you can
get a machine to wind toroids, too, which is what he did!

Mates, "dead bug," "ugly," or "ground-plane" construction
is easy, compact and electrically better than pc boards.
It's also faster and less expensive, and easier to modify.
Compare the relative sizes of Roy Lewallen's prototype
Backpacker and the pc-board-based versions available.

You want hands-on instruction in the method? Throw an
ARRL-approved CONVENTION (not a hamfest) and specify
you want a Hq staffer who can demonstrate it to attend.
I still have the little 12-meter xmtr I built to show
at Dayton a few years ago sitting in front of me, and
I had an incredibly compact 20-meter transceiver built
by Zack Lau sitting on a corner of my keyboard, but the
lab made me give it back. :>  This method works well.
Oh, and you don't have all those nasty chemicals to
get rid of.

Form the soldering irons into a circle....

73, Jim


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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 93 13:02:37 EST
From: [e-mail] (Doug Snowden)
Message-Id: <9311171802.AA10455@pd2>
To: [e-mail], [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  Bit Freaks

I thought you were going to say they laid you off after you trained them.
Doug
N4IJ

From [e-mail]  Wed Nov 17 13:24:10 1993
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    id AA05338; Wed, 17 Nov 93 13:24:19 -0500
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 93 13:24:18 -0500
From: [e-mail] (CONTRACTOR Larry Keith;653 CCSG/SCT)
Subject: New Product Ideas
To: [e-mail]
Cc: [e-mail]

While waiting for the 4 o'clock bell, I have been trying to figure out
new products for the radio amateur...   Check these out and help me
see if there would be a market..

1.      Electronic Turns Counters -- Since mechanical turns counters
are getting expensive, how about a counting circuit, triggered by a
collar on the shaft, feeding a 2 digit LCD display.   Should be cheap
enough..  Works for Antenna Tuners, Linear Amps, etc.

2.      Coil winding jigs/kits.  Set of coil winding forms, assortment
of wire, and software.  Input required inductance, current, etc.
System says take form B, Wind 26 turns of Wire C. Spacing established
by selecting the correct form..

More?


Larry, KQ4BY

From [e-mail]  Wed Nov 17 13:48:46 1993
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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 93 18:18:35 GMT
Message-Id: <21719@jek>
From: [e-mail] (Jim Kearman)
To: [e-mail]
Subject: ETO Ad

<takes off employee's hat, steps on soapbox>

You're gonna love the ETO ad for the Alpha 87A amplifier on
page 146 of December QST:

"My ALPHA 87A is pure radio pleasure...

[photo of grinning white male, wearing sunglasses and smoking
a BIG cigar]

"Life's too short for QRP!"

Shown in the ad is K7SS, who has won a bunch of DX contests
in the QRP category. Can you say _sellout_? The ad goes on
to mention how helpful an amplifier is with the sunspots
declining, and all the QRM on the low bands. Yeah, there's
a lot of QRM so let's blast in some more!

Can you write (snailmail, please) a letter to the editor?

American Radio Relay League
225 Main Street
Newington, CT 06111-1494
attn: Brian Battles, Correspondence Editor

<steps off soapbox, puts hat back on>

72/73, Jim, KR1S
Who owns an SB-220 that hasn't been fired up for 2 years.


From [e-mail]  Wed Nov 17 14:24:25 1993
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    id AA00242; Wed, 17 Nov 93 14:18:56 EST
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 93 14:18:56 EST
From: [e-mail] (Gary Diana)
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: kits vs homebrew


I have to agree with Jim's (KR1S) comments on homebrewing
versus kit building.  Although kits have the advantage
of a quick "open the box to operation cycle", I take lots
more pride in my more "homebrew" approach.

I start out with artwork and make my own PC boards, number
one.  This is fun and fairly easy.  It also has the advantage
of being about 1/10th the cost of commercially made boards.

I get to choose what power, key, antenna, and audio jacks
I want to use (standardize on).  For example, 1/4" audio
jacks on qrp equipment is too clunky to me.

I love to take a plain old aluminum box and carefully lay out
the controls and jacks.  I use painstaking care to paint and
letter the box... although homebrewed, the appearance resembles
something more "professional" than homebrew!

I am not to the point of being able to design my own equipment,
but I think, when combined with the above steps, that is probably
the ultimate in the homebrew-pride factor.  Hats-off to the
Haywards, NN1G, etc., who fill this major gap in my abilities.

I also realize that like contesting, CW, RTTY, packet, QRP,
QRO, etc, etc, that homebrewing/homebrewers come in all sizes
and shapes, and what one ham likes another dislikes.  This
is just an explanation of what interests and motivates me, in
this sliver of the hobby.

73 to all, and to all a good night.

- Gary N2JGU

From [e-mail]  Wed Nov 17 14:33:24 1993
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    id AA380457 ; Wed, 17 Nov 93 14:16:28 EST
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 93 19:14:41 GMT
Message-Id: <21730@jek>
From: [e-mail] (Jim Kearman)
To: [e-mail], [e-mail]
Subject: ETO Ad, II


"To the Editor, QST

Sir:

While I believe in a free marketplace, what kind of message does
the ETO ad on page 145 of December _QST_ send to new hams? ('Life's
too short for QRP!') Within the last year, QST devoted a considerable
amount of editorial space to promoting mature attitudes and awareness
about excessive power. Good antennas and operating skills can do more
than high power to overcome `mediocre propagation,' and `QRM on the
low bands' wouldn't be so hard to bear if fewer stations adopted the
attitude that 1500-W output is a requirement, not the legal power limit.
Including such an ad in the journal of the ARRL is the same as accepting
cigarette advertising, while editorializing against smoking. 73.

Sincerely,

James E. Kearman, KR1S
Life Member, ARRL"


<soapbox>

I sometimes get email complaining about something the League has
done. I'm willing to put my money where my mouth (and my job)is;
how about YOU? Or do you agree with the staffer who told me I was
taking my avocation (QRP) too seriously?


Here's that address again:

American Radio Relay League
225 Main Street
Newington, CT 06111-1494
attn: Brian Battles, Correspondence Editor

72/73, Jim, KR1S
ARRL Employee (this week, at least)



From [e-mail]  Wed Nov 17 15:33:31 1993
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    for @sgi.sgi.com:[e-mail] id AA16330; Wed, 17 Nov 93 14:32:27 -0600
    for @sgidal.dallas.sgi.com:[e-mail] id AA05914; Wed, 17 Nov 93 14:32:26 -0600
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 93 14:32:26 -0600
From: [e-mail] (Chuck Adams)
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: ETO ad


Jim, KR1S, and the gang,

HMMMMMMMM!! K7SS w/amplifier & QRP.  Could we have some conflict of
interest.  Maybe disqualification?  :-)

Brian Battles will get my letter.

Maybe I should see if K7SS got any awards!  :-)

SIG
------cut here----------
Chuck Adams, K5FO - CP60
[e-mail]
QRP ARCI Awards Chairman




From [e-mail]  Wed Nov 17 15:38:13 1993
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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 93 15:34:00 EST
From: [e-mail] (John Mallick)
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Cc: [e-mail], [e-mail]
In-Reply-To: CONTRACTOR Larry Keith;653 CCSG/SCT's message of Wed, 17 Nov 93 13:24:18 -0500 <[e-mail]>
Subject: New Product Ideas

   Date: Wed, 17 Nov 93 13:24:18 -0500
   From: [e-mail] (CONTRACTOR Larry Keith;653 CCSG/SCT)

......

   1.      Electronic Turns Counters -- Since mechanical turns counters
   are getting expensive, how about a counting circuit, triggered by a
   collar on the shaft, feeding a 2 digit LCD display.   Should be cheap
   enough..  Works for Antenna Tuners, Linear Amps, etc.
.....

   Larry, KQ4BY


Mechanical turns counters have non-volatile memories.  How about
yours?  You really need some sort of absolute encoder, so you can
always go back to zero as well as tell the direction of rotation. But,
since it is only one count per turn, it could be cheap.

John WA1HNL

From [e-mail]  Wed Nov 17 15:47:06 1993
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    id AA12807; Wed, 17 Nov 93 15:46:08 -0500
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 93 15:46:08 -0500
From: [e-mail] (CONTRACTOR Larry Keith;653 CCSG/SCT)
Subject: Re: New Product Ideas
To: [e-mail]
Cc: [e-mail], [e-mail]
X-Orig-Date: Wed, 17 Nov 93 15:34:00 EST
X-Orig-From: [e-mail] (John Mallick)
X-Orig-Message-Id: <[e-mail]>

In your message of 17 Nov 1993 at 1538 EST, you write:
>    Date: Wed, 17 Nov 93 13:24:18 -0500
>    From: [e-mail] (CONTRACTOR Larry Keith;653 CCSG/SCT)
>
>
> Mechanical turns counters have non-volatile memories.  How about
> yours?  You really need some sort of absolute encoder, so you can
> always go back to zero as well as tell the direction of rotation. But,
> since it is only one count per turn, it could be cheap.
>
Yep.  That was one of my thoughts.  But, if the device only uses a
miniscule amount of current, you could just leave it on, all the time,
like my watch..

Guess you would still need a reset button, for when you change the
battery every five years...

73,

Larry

From [e-mail]  Wed Nov 17 15:49:17 1993
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    id AA06906; Wed, 17 Nov 93 15:38:26 -0500
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 93 15:38:25 -0500
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
From: [e-mail]
To: "[e-mail]"[e-mail]
Cc: "[e-mail]"[e-mail]
Subject: ETO vs QRP

Jim and gang,

    I too saw the ad, albeit in a diffferent publication. I taken
aback at the somewhat callous attitude toward qrp'ers in particular
and the collective gestalt of hamdom in general.

    In this electronic age, do we really need to kill more trees
sending snail.mail? Please post Brian Battles' email address so we
can post our responsible comments and concerns in real-time. Our
addresses are in the headers, let them serve as our signatures.


Bob -  N3MBY

From [e-mail]  Wed Nov 17 16:41:34 1993
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          17 Nov 93 16:38 EST
    id AA12071; Wed, 17 Nov 93 16:40:02 EST
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 93 16:40:02 EST
From: [e-mail]
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Your new job/qth
Cc: [e-mail]

>"To the Editor, QST
>
>Sir:
>
>While I believe in a free marketplace, what kind of message does
>the ETO ad on page 145 of December _QST_ send to new hams? ('Life's
>too short for QRP!') Within the last year, QST devoted a considerable
[.....]
>James E. Kearman, KR1S
>Life Member, ARRL"
>
>I sometimes get email complaining about something the League has
>done. I'm willing to put my money where my mouth (and my job)is;
>how about YOU? Or do you agree with the staffer who told me I was
>taking my avocation (QRP) too seriously?
>
>72/73, Jim, KR1S
>ARRL Employee (this week, at least)

Well, Jim, if NAFTA passes today, then soon we're going to have to start
calling you, "Jimeno, XE1xxx"!!!

------------------------------
Kalman Laudon WD6CZI in 2 land
<[e-mail]>
------------------------------


From [e-mail]  Wed Nov 17 16:45:44 1993
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    id AA08284; Wed, 17 Nov 93 16:45:27 -0500
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 93 16:45:27 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Duane P Mantick)
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail], [e-mail], [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  ETO Ad, II

I must side with KR1S on this issue.  About the only excuse for anyone to
be using that sort of power is during a bona fide *emergency*.  The rest
of the time it ought to be throttled back, and I mean a LOT.

Hams who feel that they ought to be *guaranteed* the ability to make
instantaneous contact anywhere on the planet should try using the phone.
That's what it is for.

As for QST, I do think they should have thought about that ad being in poor
taste and rejected it - but told the company that a better ad that is more
sensitive to the issue could be accepted.  Another point - such a piece of
equipment is only likely to be affordable to those with some $$$$.  I
wonder what percentage of amateur ops (and we'll cut it down a bit by saying
"folks who actually GET qst magazine") are likely to buy such an item.
perhaps that ad space could have been better used advertising a more
universaly desired product.

Duane
(who's never run over 75 watts in his LIFE.....)

From [e-mail]  Wed Nov 17 16:48:01 1993
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Date:     Wed, 17 Nov 93 16:42:07 EST
From: "Henry T. Rand Jr." (FSAC-AAD) <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject:  Big Amps and Ads
Message-Id:  <[e-mail]>

I second Jim's comments. While I appreciate the engineering that went into
and the capabilities of Alpha's products, the attitude that 1.5KW is a
necessity is misguided.

Good ops that I know that also own amps and who aren't QRPers usually run
barefoot. A good set of antennas makes an amp totally unnecessary most of
the time, even for long winded ragchewing types on SSB.

I for one would much rather put my money into a better antenna than run
more power and QRM more people in all compass directions rather than
just in the direction of the beam heading.

Hope you aren't jeopardizing your job Jim. I think the Alpha guys are
understanding though. We used to have our booth in Dayton across the
aisle from them. I always wanted to set up a 5 Watt QRP XMTR and let
it cook into a dummy load with a wattmeter and a brick on the key. Never
did it though. Would have made an interesting comparison in the arena.

                            72,73
                      Randy Randy AA2U
                      Also ARRL Life Member
                      [e-mail]

From [e-mail]  Wed Nov 17 16:58:34 1993
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    id AA26591; Wed, 17 Nov 1993 16:57:07 -0500
    id AA14006; Wed, 17 Nov 93 16:57:14 EST
    id AA12851; Wed, 17 Nov 93 16:56:41 EST
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
    id AA02690; Wed, 17 Nov 93 16:56:40 EST
To: [e-mail] (CONTRACTOR Larry Keith;653 CCSG/SCT)
Cc: [e-mail], [e-mail], [e-mail],
        [e-mail]
Subject: Re: New Product Ideas
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 17 Nov 93 15:46:08 EST."
             <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 93 16:56:39 EST
From: "John F. Woods" <[e-mail]>

Actually, I think you can get serial EEPROMs for a couple of bucks.  Of course,
you need careful power-sequencing logic so you can avoid using up the ~10,000
write limit too quickly (ie only write when power goes away).

From [e-mail]  Wed Nov 17 17:01:39 1993
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    id <[e-mail]>; Wed, 17 Nov 93 13:56 PST
    id <[e-mail]>; Wed, 17 Nov 93 13:20 PST
        id AA29857; Wed, 17 Nov 93 13:15:32 PST
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
           Wed, 17 Nov 1993 13:10:12 pst
From: [e-mail]
Organization:  Rodgers Instrument Corp.
To: [e-mail]
Date:          Wed, 17 Nov 1993 13:12:39 PDT
Subject:       Re: New Product Ideas / Turns Counter
X-Pmrqc:       1
Priority: normal
X-Mailer:     PMail v3.0 (R1a)

| From:           [e-mail] (CONTRACTOR Larry Keith;653 CCSG/SCT)

| While waiting for the 4 o'clock bell, I have been trying to figure out
| new products for the radio amateur...   Check these out and help me
| see if there would be a market..
|
| 1.      Electronic Turns Counters -- Since mechanical turns counters
| are getting expensive, how about a counting circuit, triggered by a
| collar on the shaft, feeding a 2 digit LCD display.   Should be cheap
| enough..  Works for Antenna Tuners, Linear Amps, etc.
|

I use an old calculator with an external switch connected to the '+'
key... (different calculators may require attachment to different keys).
Then I push the number one and whenever the switch activates it adds one
to the display.  Of course, you could use different numbers if you
wanted.  There are lots of neat ways to expand this idea.


Lowell Brunson [phone]
Rosenet: [e-mail]
Internet:  [e-mail] (preferred)
           [e-mail]
Packet Radio: [e-mail]


From [e-mail]  Wed Nov 17 17:05:10 1993
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    id AA04293; Wed, 17 Nov 93 16:01:22 CST
    id AA01073; Wed, 17 Nov 93 16:11:04 CST
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 93 16:11:04 CST
From: [e-mail] (Brian Cieslak)
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: ETO VS QRP

My apologies to THE POOR GUY WHO RECEIVES THE STUFF AT QRP-REQUEST.I`LL GET THE ADDRESS RIGHT ONE OF THESE DAYS.

I'm not sure but I think that amplifier in the ad can be driven to full output with only 5 watts in....Maybe k7ss used his argonaut..

73,
Brian
AE9K


From [e-mail]  Wed Nov 17 17:10:36 1993
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    id AA01076; Wed, 17 Nov 93 16:16:30 CST
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 93 16:16:30 CST
From: [e-mail] (Brian Cieslak)
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: NAFTA


----- Begin Included Message -----

From [e-mail] Wed Nov 17 16:05:02 1993
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 93 16:40:02 EST
From: [e-mail]
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Your new job/qth
Cc: [e-mail]
Content-Length: 818

>"To the Editor, QST
>
>Sir:
>
>While I believe in a free marketplace, what kind of message does
>the ETO ad on page 145 of December _QST_ send to new hams? ('Life's
>too short for QRP!') Within the last year, QST devoted a considerable
[.....]
>James E. Kearman, KR1S
>Life Member, ARRL"
>
>I sometimes get email complaining about something the League has
>done. I'm willing to put my money where my mouth (and my job)is;
>how about YOU? Or do you agree with the staffer who told me I was
>taking my avocation (QRP) too seriously?
>
>72/73, Jim, KR1S
>ARRL Employee (this week, at least)

Well, Jim, if NAFTA passes today, then soon we're going to have to start
calling you, "Jimeno, XE1xxx"!!!

------------------------------
Kalman Laudon WD6CZI in 2 land
<[e-mail]>
------------------------------



----- End Included Message -----

Just think if NAFTA passes today We'll; have somewhere to dump all the old rigs in our basements. How ,any pesoes do you think a heathkit hw-100 is worth. (6146's not included).  Who syays this is a bad thing

adios
AE9K

From [e-mail]  Wed Nov 17 17:27:09 1993
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    id AA04036 for [e-mail]; Wed, 17 Nov 93 17:26:23 -0500
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 93 16:36:23 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
    id AA380932 ; Wed, 17 Nov 93 16:15:51 EST
Apparently-To: <[e-mail]>

Bob, N3MBY says:

>     In this electronic age, do we really need to kill more trees
> sending snail.mail? Please post Brian Battles' email address so we
> can post our responsible comments and concerns in real-time. Our
> addresses are in the headers, let them serve as our signatures.
>

Trust me, folks. If you want to have an effect, sacrifice a tree.
The first few emailings are likely to get downloaded, the rest
sent off to the bitbucket. No reflection on the editor, but paper
still has more clout than electrons. You might CC: your Division
directors. Addresses in QST, page 8.

Since Bob asked, Brian's address is [e-mail]. Our FAX
number is 203-665-7531.

72/73, Jim, KR1S

--
[e-mail]


From [e-mail]  Wed Nov 17 17:31:28 1993
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    id AA18606; Wed, 17 Nov 93 15:29:44 MST
    id AA11385; Wed, 17 Nov 93 15:29:49 MST
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 93 15:29:49 MST
From: Doug Datwyler <[e-mail]>
Message-Id: <9311172229.AA11385@moons>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: QST: the Alpha ad

Since it has been brought up as "who actually get QST", what about the
when so we may indicate that we saw the ad and thought it to be in bad
taste?

Doug Datwyler WR7O
I have run 100W, since my antenna is small, but haven't in a while. I
subscribe to the idea that construction is "GOOD"
[e-mail]

From [e-mail]  Wed Nov 17 17:32:38 1993
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    id AA14912; Wed, 17 Nov 93 12:32:30 HST
    id AA25394; Wed, 17 Nov 93 12:32:30 HST
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 93 12:32:30 HST
From: Jeff Herman <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: qrp vs qro
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>


I have been reading the excellent book HISTORY OF QRP IN THE U.S. - early
on in the book the author relates how QST was chastising amateurs on
the wastefullness (and arrogance) of high power (this is back in the 20's).
Thus, I shake my head in disbelief at Jim's fellow ARRL staff member
chastising Jim for taking QRP so seriously. Jim, I would suggest you
give your associate a copy of this wonderful book.

I had to return the book to the library - when I get it back (couldn't
renew it - have to wait) I will post the address of the publishing
company. I HIGHLY recommend this easy reading and extremely informative
book to every amateur, not just us qrp folks.

Jeff NH6IL

From [e-mail]  Wed Nov 17 18:14:16 1993
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    for [e-mail] id AA06838; Wed, 17 Nov 93 15:14:09 -0800
    for @sgi.sgi.com:[e-mail] id AA21740; Wed, 17 Nov 93 17:13:34 -0600
    for @sgidal.dallas.sgi.com:[e-mail] id AA06188; Wed, 17 Nov 93 17:13:33 -0600
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 93 17:13:33 -0600
From: [e-mail] (Chuck Adams)
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: ETO and Bricks


:-)  Great writeup Randy.  That would be cute.  QRP rig with brick on
key with output into dummy load.

1.  How long will rig last?
2.  How much will electric bill be?
3.  How much pollution caused to the environment?
4.  What radiation hazard does this generate?

REAL Hams do it with minimum power required as directed by law.  QRP or die!

73
SIG
------cut here----------
Chuck Adams, K5FO - CP60
[e-mail]
QRP ARCI Awards Chairman




From [e-mail]  Wed Nov 17 19:17:51 1993
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    id AA10931; Wed, 17 Nov 93 16:17:09 -0800
    for @palladium.corp.sgi.com:[e-mail] id AA03235; Wed, 17 Nov 93 16:17:08 -0800
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail], [e-mail]
Subject: [[e-mail] (CONTRACTOR Larry Keith;653 CCSG/SCT): New Product Ideas]
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 93 16:17:08 -0800
From: David Watson <[e-mail]>


> 1.      Electronic Turns Counters -- Since mechanical turns counters
> are getting expensive, how about a counting circuit, triggered by a
> collar on the shaft, feeding a 2 digit LCD display.   Should be cheap
> enough..  Works for Antenna Tuners, Linear Amps, etc.

Nice idea!

Please accept the following, offered naively by an acknowledged
electronics neophyte.

How about taking it one step further by measuring and digitally
displaying an actual inductance value?  I assume you'd have to do
something special to avoid interference between your meter signal and
the RF, but wouldn't it be worth it to get a direct, exact, repeatable
value, independent of any mechanically induced variability in the
inductance per turn?

 -David.
  KE6BWJ






From [e-mail]  Wed Nov 17 21:02:06 1993
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    (queueing-rmail) id 205933.5437; Wed, 17 Nov 1993 20:59:33 EST
    id AA03125; Wed, 17 Nov 93 17:49:54 PST
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Why Lose Sleep over Big Amp Ads?
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 93 17:49:34 -0800
From: tekbspa![e-mail]


What's with all this righteous indignation over a bit of
advertising?  C'mon guys, lighten up.  QRP is fun.  QRO is
fun.  Ham radio is fun and that's why we do it.  Let's live
and let live and not let our hearts bleed all over an ad for
a piece of equipment that some hams don't feel they need.
Enjoy your ham radio activities and respect those of others.

/Rick Tavan N6XI
[e-mail]

From [e-mail]  Wed Nov 17 22:37:09 1993
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 <[e-mail]>; Wed, 17 Nov 1993 21:35:53 CDT
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1993 20:16:00 +0000
From: [e-mail] (Bob Hilton)
Subject: ARGONAUT II
To: [e-mail]
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Bob Hilton)
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
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Does anyone here have experience with Ten Tec's Argonaut II?  I thought
I saw in QST's review that it wasn't up to Ten Tec's usual standards.
Are any upgrades available that improve performance?

Tnx  ki5ez


From [e-mail]  Wed Nov 17 22:49:27 1993
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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1993 19:56:05 -0800 (PST)
From: Ward Silver <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: ETO Ad
To: Jim Kearman <[e-mail]>
Cc: [e-mail]
In-Reply-To: <21719@jek>
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
Mime-Version: 1.0
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I think if you look closely, you can guess that there's a tongue in cheek
in there somewhere, Jim, OM...lighten up!!  Danny's won in QRP, Low Power,
High Power, Single-Op, Multi-Op, CW, and SSB.  Waddaya want already?

To quote Foghorn Leghorn..."That's a joke, son!"

dit dit
Ward, N0AX (the picture is GREAT! and he DOES own the amp...)




From [e-mail]  Wed Nov 17 22:57:51 1993
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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1993 20:03:42 -0800 (PST)
From: Ward Silver <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: ETO ad
To: [e-mail]
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

Guys...
It's supposed to be FUNNY...repeat after me...FUNNY...
you remember...having FUN...laughing at the obviously ridiculousness of it??
Danny can win in any power class, any mode he chooses, and is doing QRP some
serious good with some AMAZING scores, opening up some eyes.

"It's a joke, son!" F. Leghorn
Ward, N0AX




From [e-mail]  Wed Nov 17 23:36:51 1993
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Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
From: [e-mail] (Randy)
Subject: Re: Why Lose Sleep over Big Amp Ads?
To: tekbspa![e-mail]
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1993 23:36:19 -0500 (EST)
Cc: [e-mail]
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]> from "[e-mail]" at Nov 17, 93 05:49:34 pm
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The worry is that it seems to sending a message that we all NEED to use a PA
and we are incorrect in not using a PA...
It smacks of CBism, which sez " POWER RULES " and " I'll stomp you flat 10-4"

Its all nice and good that they finally are making gear that won't burn out
when run at the advertised ratings...but the way they seem to be pushing
it seems to spell out that one is a half-ham by not having it on and running.

However, my self...I obtain burnout proofness by derating downwards...

for example, a 6AQ5 ( or 6V6 ) is a 4 watt output tube

A 2N2102 is a 750 m.w. output transistor

and so forth.

--
Randy KA1UNW              If you get a shock while
                         servicing  your  equipment,         "Works for me!"
randy@192.153.4.200             DON'T  JUMP!                     -Peter Keyes
                     You might break an expensive tube!

From [e-mail]  Thu Nov 18 00:42:16 1993
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    id AA12207; Wed, 17 Nov 1993 21:42:12 -0800
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1993 21:36:48 -0800 (PST)
From: Jack Fleming <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Why Lose Sleep over Big Amp Ads?
To: tekbspa![e-mail]
Cc: [e-mail]
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
Mime-Version: 1.0
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On Wed, 17 Nov 1993 tekbspa![e-mail] wrote:

>
> What's with all this righteous indignation over a bit of
> advertising?  C'mon guys, lighten up.  QRP is fun.  QRO is
> fun.  Ham radio is fun and that's why we do it.  Let's live
> and let live and not let our hearts bleed all over an ad for
> a piece of equipment that some hams don't feel they need.
> Enjoy your ham radio activities and respect those of others.
>
> /Rick Tavan N6XI
> [e-mail]

My thoughts exactly.  This whining sounds like complaints over team
mascots, politicians telling jokes, and people taking offense at
the least provocation...

I love QRP, but I also thought the shirts were funny.  Relax.


***************************************************************
Jack Fleming, WA0RJY                          [e-mail]
20148 6th Avenue NE
Seattle, WA  98155                            DON'T PANIC!
***************************************************************



From [e-mail]  Thu Nov 18 00:46:52 1993
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    id AA13872; Wed, 17 Nov 93 19:46:44 HST
    id AA16295; Wed, 17 Nov 93 19:46:43 HST
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 93 19:46:43 HST
From: Jeff Herman <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: I wish it were a joke
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>


The high power folks stepping on us little guys is no joke. Just think
if EVERYONE used qrp - can you imagine how pleasent the bands would be?
That ad might be a joke but once the KW is fired up, it's no longer funny.

Jeff NH6IL

From [e-mail]  Thu Nov 18 01:56:03 1993
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    id AA28514; Thu, 18 Nov 93 00:23:05 CST
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 93 00:23:05 CST
From: [e-mail] (Michael S. Dooley)
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: more bits


>From [e-mail] Wed Nov 17 12:02:42 1993
>Return-Path: <[e-mail]>
>Date: Wed, 17 Nov 93 13:02:37 EST
>From: [e-mail] (Doug Snowden)
>Message-Id: <9311171802.AA10455@pd2>
>To: [e-mail], [e-mail]
>Subject: Re:  Bit Freaks
>Status: R
>
>I thought you were going to say they laid you off after you trained them.
>Doug
>N4IJ
>

<grin>  I hadn't thought of that!
Mike Dooley KE4PC
[e-mail]



From [e-mail]  Thu Nov 18 01:56:06 1993
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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 93 00:22:19 CST
From: [e-mail] (Michael S. Dooley)
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: bit stuff


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>From: Doug Datwyler <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Re:  Bit Freaks
>Status: R
>
>Good message about the training. I gave some to my lab instructors
>about RG58 once. They were ammazed that the connector went on that
>way.
>
>Doug Datwyler WR7O
>[e-mail]

HIHI I was amazed that we had a problem with people incorrectly building
RG58 cable/conectors.  It's incredible the things some senior people take
for granted.  They don't seem to remember when someone had to teach THEM
how to build cables.

Mike Dooley KE4PC
[e-mail]


From [e-mail]  Thu Nov 18 01:56:11 1993
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    id AA28511; Thu, 18 Nov 93 00:22:43 CST
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 93 00:22:43 CST
From: [e-mail] (Michael S. Dooley)
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: bits


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>Date: Wed, 17 Nov 93 13:02:54 -0500
>Subject: Re:  Bit Freaks
>Status: R
>
>No kidding on that training bit.  Most of the EE's I meet here at Purdue
>wouldn't know the hot end of a soldering iron if it fell into their
>laps!
>
>Duane Mantick
>AAS EET 1979

One of my more interseting observations is that the really good engineers
are the ones who learn both hardware and software.  They're the ones who
not only can design a piece of electronic equipment, but can write the
software necessary to operate it (not much built today without a processor
in it).  We frequently get high school seniors in for a kind of career
day.  Whenever they come over to see me in my area I always tell them
to major in one and minor in the other (hardware/software) because those
are the folks who really go places.

Mike Dooley KE4PC
[e-mail]


From [e-mail]  Thu Nov 18 01:56:14 1993
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    id AA28519; Thu, 18 Nov 93 00:24:28 CST
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 93 00:24:28 CST
From: [e-mail] (Michael S. Dooley)
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: another story

OK, folks, here's my last story (at least for awhile).  If Chuck and I
keep this up we'll never get anything else done <grin>!


When I was working at Western Union several <!> years ago,
I not only did training, I did some Technical support.  One day
one of my recently trained students called.  He was working on a
GE Terminat 300 printer with a point to point MODEM that was
being used to communicate with the mainframe at a college.  He'd
been called out to fix it cause it wouldn't talkto the mainframe.
Anyway, he called me after three days of work for help.  After the usual
questions I found he'd a)realigned all the mechanical parts, b) replaced
all the boards... twice, c) tested the RS232 port with a loopback plug.
The Printer checked out OK, but was still unable to communicate.
I asked him if he'd checked the MODEM and the circuit to the mainframe,
which he said he had.  He said he'd done a loopback using the test
buttons on the MODEM and the guy at the mainframe saw the loop.  I asked
him to please check the MODEM again, not the circuit, the MODEM.
He asked me to hold on a minute, then said he'd have to call me back.
Well, I finally called him two weeks later and, you may have guessed,
the MODEM was UNPLUGGED!
I still smile when I think about the story 'cause it reminds me of
the many times I've been lost in a group of trees trying to find the
forest...

Mike Dooley KE4PC
[e-mail]


From [e-mail]  Thu Nov 18 02:22:17 1993
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Date:     Wed, 17 Nov 1993 10:34:36 PST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Another Questionable Hambrew Article
To: [e-mail]
Cc: [e-mail]
Reply-To: [e-mail]
Message-Id: <"17-Nov-93 13:34:36 EST".*[e-mail]>

Hey Chuck, it would appear that the Zapper antenna article
isn't the only Hambrew article with a suspicious origin.

Check out the 'Variable Bandpass Audio Filter' article, pg 12.
The schematic is almost identical to one that appears in the
op-amp expirementer's handbook at Radio Shack. Now, I'm not
upset that I could have found this information elsewhere,
and I'm not trying to speak for Radio Shack. I am concerned
that Hambrew didn't give credit to Radio Shack as the source
of the design.

It seems to me that if the Hambrew folks can't come up with
original articles to fill their magazine then they shouldn't
be in business.

Just my to cents...

-Dave-
[e-mail]

From [e-mail]  Thu Nov 18 02:40:00 1993
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Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: New Product Ideas
To: [e-mail] (CONTRACTOR Larry Keith;653 CCSG/SCT)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1993 23:26:53 +0000 (GMT)
Cc: [e-mail]
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]> from "CONTRACTOR Larry Keith;653 CCSG/SCT" at Nov 17, 93 03:46:08 pm
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>
> In your message of 17 Nov 1993 at 1538 EST, you write:
> >    Date: Wed, 17 Nov 93 13:24:18 -0500
> >    From: [e-mail] (CONTRACTOR Larry Keith;653 CCSG/SCT)
> >
> >
> > Mechanical turns counters have non-volatile memories.  How about
> > yours?  You really need some sort of absolute encoder,

**** This is easy.  You just make a binary encoding disk.  Such a disk
would have conductive or optical bands on it.  The innermost band would be
half black/conductive/one, the other half white/insulating/zero.  The
next outer band would divide the circle into four sections 1-0-1-0,
the band after that into eight.  Four bands get you 16 unique positions,
eight bands get you 256.  And there is no EEPROM to worry about, and no
battery backups.
                                         Jerry
--
***************************************************************
* Jerry Kaidor       [e-mail], [e-mail]     *
*                    KF6VB                                    *
***************************************************************

From [e-mail]  Thu Nov 18 07:13:20 1993
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  (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for <[e-mail]>); Thu, 18 Nov 1993 07:12:39 -0500
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1993 07:12:39 -0500
From: Brad Mitchell <[e-mail]>
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: The incredible shrinking 40 meter cw band.

You know a few months ago, I read Chuck k5fo telling us all about the
40 meter band and how it is shrinking because of this and that and on and
on.  Well, at the time, I just shrugged my shoulders and said, well, that's
progress.

But lately, I have been very upset about this fact. I seems that there
is an ever growing number of ve's (canadians not volunteer examineers) that
are creeping down further and further with ssb into the cw zone. This is
anoying because they all seem to be using ETO amps. %:-)

Anyway, to make matters worse, the darn rtty/amtor/packtor/packet racket is
creeping even further down than the arrl suggested plan. Now, I work
rtty, amtor, but no hf packet (it stinks), so I feel somewhat unbiased.

I guess the question I have is, is everyone else having the same problems
as me or is it just my qth proximity to VE land?

P.S. does anybody know what the VE's legal bottom end for SSB is on 40?

From [e-mail]  Thu Nov 18 07:28:51 1993
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    id AA01826; Thu, 18 Nov 93 07:29:20 -0500
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 93 07:29:20 -0500
From: [e-mail] (CONTRACTOR Larry Keith;653 CCSG/SCT)
Subject: Re: New Product Ideas
To: [e-mail]
Cc: [e-mail], [e-mail]
X-Orig-Date: Wed, 17 Nov 93 13:35:33 PST
X-Orig-From: [e-mail]
X-Orig-Message-Id: <[e-mail]>

In your message of 17 Nov 1993 at 1636 EST, you write:
>
>
> > 2.      Coil winding jigs/kits.  Set of coil winding forms, assortment
>
> What?  For the total of 16 people who would want to do this?  Who homebrews
> anymore, anyway?  :->
>
But, isn't it a Catch-22 situation?  No one homebrews because the
parts are hard to find..

And, the parts are hard to find because no one builds anything!

73,


Larry

From [e-mail]  Thu Nov 18 08:52:30 1993
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 <[e-mail]>; Thu, 18 Nov 1993 08:50:41 EDT
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1993 08:50:41 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Daniel J. Curtin" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: ETO VS QRP
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Dear QRPers,

        I have never run more than 200 W and probably never will, but with
regards to the Alpha ads keep in mind the eternal words of Foghorn Leghorn,"I
say, I say,...it's a joke, son!"


73, Dan KF4AV


Daniel J. Curtin
Department of Mathematics and Computer Science
Northern Kentucky University
Highland Heights, KY 41099-1700

[e-mail]
_._ .._. ...._ ._ ..._


From [e-mail]  Thu Nov 18 09:19:15 1993
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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1993 08:20:50 -0600 (CST)
From: "JEFF M. GOLD" <[e-mail]>
Subject: QRP for sale
To: [e-mail]
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New 20 meter A&A engineering QRP transceiver:

Portable, Single-signal superhet receiver with narrow CW
crystal filter, VFO main and fine tuning, audio derived AGC
and two stages fo audio filtering for listening comfort, 5
watts output power, semi-QSK TR switching with adjustable
delay, sidetone generator with adjustable volume, perfect
for backpacking, portable or home QTH use, built in speaker
with plenty of audio, earphone jack.  6 X 7.25 X 3.
Assembled, tested, works great off power supply or gell
cell.

$135 shipped US

72

Jeff, AC4HF

From [e-mail]  Thu Nov 18 09:32:10 1993
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    id AA22131; Thu, 18 Nov 93 09:32:06 -0500
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 93 09:32:06 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Duane P Mantick)
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail], tekbspa![e-mail]
Subject: Re:  Why Lose Sleep over Big Amp Ads?

Said N6XI:

"Enjoy your ham radio activities and respect those of others."

When some of these clowns running megawatts and splattering all over
what often seems like entire band segments start respecting MY right
to perate without their interference, then maybe what you have suggested
is possible.  I have a hard time respecting those who care not one bit
about anyone else......

Duane
WB9OMC

From [e-mail]  Thu Nov 18 10:28:09 1993
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    on Thu, 18 Nov 1993 09:17:00 -0600.
Organization: Iowa Computer Aided Engineering Network, University of Iowa
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1993 09:13:49 +2483800 (??)
From: Douglas J Renze <[e-mail]>
Subject: ARRL e-mail addresses
To: [e-mail]
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
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To whomever was recommending we flood the upper echelons of QST with
e-mail about the anti-qrp ad, I *believe* ARRL email addresses are
first-initial/[e-mail] (ie, [e-mail]).  At least, those
I've seen post to the net seem to follow this formula.  To whom would we mail?

73, Doug (not quite yet an ARRL member, and now not sure i he wants to be
one).

__  /|  | Douglas J Renze, N0YVW  | I just finished reading Joe Haldeman's "All
\'o.O'  | [phone]         | My Sins Remembered."  I've felt a lot of
=(___)= | [e-mail]  | emotions from books, but this is the first
   U    | [e-mail] | time I've felt the need to purge myself.



From [e-mail]  Thu Nov 18 10:39:40 1993
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    (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA10657; Thu, 18 Nov 93 10:39:24 -0500
    (queueing-rmail) id 103731.3349; Thu, 18 Nov 1993 10:37:31 EST
    id AA12260; Thu, 18 Nov 93 10:02:03 EST
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 93 10:02:03 EST
From: [e-mail] (Edward Pacyna)
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: uunet!Think.COM![e-mail]
Subject: Homebrew / QRP stuff For Sale
Cc: [e-mail]


Hi Folks

I tried posting the stuff below to the QRP mail group via Compuserve several
nights back. I received back a message of "not able to deliver". So will try
from here at work. I'm trying to clear out some stuff I no longer will have
time to use and thought some of you folks here might be interested as QRP /
homebrew related (I usually post to "rec.radio.swap").

73 Ed W1AAZ
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Subject: Receiver PCB's For Sale

I have two sets of PCB boards to build a compact receiver. The boards are for a
that orginally appeared in Ham Radio 11/83 and in the Radio Handbook by Editors
and Engineers (Bill Orr W6SAI) in chapter 10 (Portable and Mobile Equipment).
The boards are as follows.

1.   Main board is 3 5/16"  x  2" and has the circuitry for a grounded base
     JFet RF amp., a MOSFet mixer, a MOSFet IF amp., a  MOSFet Product detector
     a LM386 audio amp. and an audio derived agc.

2.   VFO board is 1 9/16" x  1 7/8" and has the circuitry for a FET hartley
     oscillator and a MOSFet buffer/amp.

3a  BFO board is 9/16" x  1 1/4" and has the circuitry for a FET crystal
    oscillator.
3b  BFO board is 1 3/16" x  1 1/16" and has the circuitry for a FET
    oscillator using a 455KHz ceramic resonator.

4.  Active antenna board is 1 7/16" x  1 1/16" and has the circuitry for a
    MOSFet voltage probe antenna. Note: only needed if you want to use receiver
    with a whip antenna.

There is a lot of flexibility with this receiver. It can be constructed
very small enclosure, use varius band plans (i.e. 9MHz or 455KHz IF and
any band (the contruction article is for 20/80M).

It would make a nice receiver for travel, net monitoring, or for use with a
a companion transmiter.

I have two sets available as follows:

1. Board #'s 1, 2, 3a and 4  for $15
2. Board #'s 1,3b and 4 (no VFO board) for $12

Boards are soder plated and drilled and include a copy of articles above.

Ed W1AAZ     Reply to:  [e-mail]    or     [phone] x114 days

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Subject: Commerical Filters For Sale - Update

1.  9 Mhz SSB crystal filters. Made by Showa, model SF0922B. Center frequency
    is 9.000 MHz, Input / Output Z is 500 ohms. I recall these are 8 pole
    filters with a
    2.2KHz BW. Size is 1 3/8 L x  3/4W x  13/16H. Filers are new and $48
    each.

2.  CW crystal filters. Made by Fox Tango, model YF91H250. Center frequency is
     8999.3KHz, Input / Output Z is 500 ohms and the BW is 250Hz. These were
     made for the Yaesu FT301 or FT7B transceivers. Size is 1 9/16L x  3/4W x
     13/16H. Filters are new and  $58 each.

3.  Mystery Filter. All I know is what is says on the box. Made by Collins,
    crystal filter,
     P/N 526701800, Type X420KD126, Customer P/N 293084500. Filter is new and
     3L x  1 1/16W x 3/4H.  Price is $10 or BO

4.  Monolithic Crystal Filters by Motorola. The center frequency is 17.9MHz
     These are about the size of HC18U crystals and have 3 wire terminals(In,
     Out and Gnd) and Input/Output Z of 1500 ohms (perfect match to NE602's).
     Following are some specifications from some notes I have.
     The BW's are on the wide side. As is they would be great for AM, however
     they are useful to eliminate the unwanted sideband for SSB or CW, and can
     be followed by a narrow filter to obtain added selectivity, or used as
     one of the filters in a pass band tuning schema.

     a)  6 pole 2 filter set ( uses a 2 pole and 4 pole filter in tandem).
         CF = 17.900Mhz,
         BW = +/- 5KHz @ 3 db and +/- 30KHz @ 80 db, Ripple 1.5 db and IL
         = 4 db
         Input/output Z = 1500 ohms.

     b)  4 pole 2 filter set (uses two 2 pole filters in tandem). CF =
         17.900MHz, BW =
         +/- 5.5KHz @ 6 db and +/- 30KHz @ 64 db. Ripple = 1.5 db and IL =
         3 db.
         Input/output Z = 1500 ohms.

     Filter sets are new and either set is $10 or BO.

Contact  [e-mail]   or  [phone] x114  (day phone)

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Subject: 40M QRP Transceiver

The transceiver is based on the " 40 Meter Optimized QRP Transceiver" by W7EL
See August 1980 QST, 1992 & 1993 ARRL Handbook or QRP Classics (2nd Edition).
However, it has been further improved with the following changes.

* A 5 pole HP filter has been cascaded with the 5 pole LP filter to form a
  wide bandpass filter.

* A double tuned narrow band pass filter has been added in front of the RF
  port on the SBL-1 mixer.

* A 7 element Elliptical LP filter has been added in the audio channel. The
  cutoff is 825 Hz with a shape factor of 1.4:1.

* A complementary pair AF driver has been added to drive small speakers or
  8 ohm earphones.

* Power has been icreased to a full 5W output (adjustable with pot on PCB).

The transceiver is homebrew, on a single PCB, and in an attractive black en-
closure (6"W x 6"D x 2 1/2"H) with round edges, tilt up bail and alumimum
front & back panels (neatly lettered with dry transfers). The transceiver
features:

* Front panel w/ tuning (7.00 to 7.055Mhz w/ 6:1 reduction drive), RIT, spot
  & volume controls, and a LED power on lite.

* Back panel has power cable (diode polarity protected), antenna SO239, key
  jack (phono jack) and earphone/speaker jack (2 circuit mini jack).

* Full QSK, stable VFO operation & sidetone (600 Hz)

Price is $90 plus ship.

Contact Ed Pacyna W1AAZ  email: [e-mail]   telephone [phone] x114




From [e-mail]  Thu Nov 18 11:11:09 1993
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    id AA382683 ; Thu, 18 Nov 93 10:43:41 EST
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 93 15:05:19 GMT
Message-Id: <21884@jek>
From: [e-mail] (Jim Kearman)
To: [e-mail]
Subject: History of QRP

Jeff, NH6IL, mentioned this book by Adrian Weiss, W0RSP. He self published
it, under the imprint of The Milliwatt Press.

I think he still has copies of this book; contact him via the Callbook
I guess. Ham Radio Bookstore was dumping them at Dayton a few years ago
for $5 (!) and I grabbed a few, all but one of which I gave away.

In my opinion, there has never been a definite Headquarters stance on
QRP. Headquarters and the League supports the regulation requiring minimum
power to complete the communication. It is not a good idea to voluntarily
give up rights, and the League would probably resist any changes in the
regs that would diminish the legal limit. There ARE occasions where 1500 W
is useful (aren't there?).

Recently, the League ran a theme issue of QST, dedicated to reducing power.
Those of you who are members (ahem!) will recall the cover photo of a POWER
knob on a transceiver. We run more pages of QRP equipment articles than all
the other US ham magazines put together, and I'm counting _QRP Quarterly_.
So, the League can't be said to be anti-QRP, or even apathetic.

On the other hand, this isn't QRP-ARCI, so we don't have a pro-QRP
agenda to the exclusion of QRO interests. What we receive in the way
of manuscripts plays a major role in determining what we print. It costs
a lot more to pay a staffer to write an article than it does to pay you
for one. So that's not a good alternative. On the other hand, the editorial
staff is very pro QRP, so they would certainly look favorably upon any
submission. The trouble comes when you look at the eight 40-m rig of the
year. As the League, we need to keep a balance. We haven't published an HF
amp construction project in years! The point of this rambling discourse is,
while there is no formal determination to devote a greater percentage of
time and page space to QRP, a good article on a subject that hasn't been
done recently has a better than average chance of being accepted.

I don't think this policy is any different than it was back in the 20s
and 30s. From time to time back then, one or another HQ staffer took an
interest in low-power operation, when many other hams were trying to see
how much power they could squeeze out of a tube. Weiss and others have
mistaken these articles for League policy, when in fact they may have
been only the policy of the authors; the editors may not have objected,
but they may not have had strong positive feelings either. If I write an
article about QRP and it gets into _QST_, that doesn't mean the League's
policy has shifted. Yes, sometimes policy drives _QST_ content, but
sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

Despite our efforts, there is an attitude in the general amateur
population that QRPers are some weird bunch of people that shouldn't
be taken seriously. We QRPers have an image problem, and K7SS did
nothing to improve it by posing for that ad. Then again, there are
QRPers and there are people who run QRP, just as there are pianists
and people who play the piano.

I've been encouraging a few well-know QRPers/writers to write about
QRP from the philosophical standpoint, but haven't seen any manuscripts.
We don't need anymore how to or construction articles, we need WHY
articles, so the kind of person who succeeds in QRP (it's not for
everyone) will recognize us.

I hope to use this ad to stimulate QRPers to stand up and make some
noise. I don't have to look at the ad, I can turn the page. I could buy
every QRP rig at Dayton for the cost of an Alpha amp; that's a hobby item?
I'd like to raise the consciousness of the heavy-metal crowd, and get back
some respect for what QRPers, who exemplify all that is good in ham radio,
are doing. I also hate to see potential QRPers (and potential hams/HF ops)
paralyzed by the fear that you ain't worth squat if you don't run at least
100 watts all the time. A concerted letter-writing campaign will at least
demonstrate that QRPers aren't taking this in silence. You can always write
to other publishers, too. Both _CQ_ and _73_ make much of their QRP coverage.
Let 'em know we're QRPers because we don't need the security blanket of QRO,
and we don't have to go around bashing others to feel good about ourselves!

These are my personal thoughts. I am in no position to make League policy;
that's done by the elected Board. These remarks may not be quoted or
paraphrased anywhere without my permission.

Some of you have expressed concern, lest I get sacked for this. Thanks.
While it's probably not good policy to have employees stirring up the
members. I've explained that I don't think there is any intent here, but
some consciousness raising is needed. Nobody else at HQ has elected himself
or herself an ombudsperson for QRPers, and I think QRPers need one at HQ, so
I'm it for now. I also think too many people complain when the means for
change is right in their hands, so I'm encouraging you to speak out. This is
a fairly reasonable place to work in that regard, so I'm not concerned.

72/73,

Jim, KR1S


From [e-mail]  Thu Nov 18 11:38:46 1993
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    id AA14450; Thu, 18 Nov 1993 10:37:16 -0600 for [e-mail]
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1993 10:23:12 -0600 (CST)
From: Peter Hardie <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: The incredible shrinking 40 meter cw band.
To: [e-mail]
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On Thu, 18 Nov 1993, Brad Mitchell wrote:

> P.S. does anybody know what the VE's legal bottom end for SSB is on 40?

The only restriction on Canadian amateurs in any band is bandwidth. For
all HF bands this restriction is 6kHz, except in the 30m band where it is
1kHz and in the 10m band where it is 20kHz(!). There are no sub-bands.

We used to be regulated by mode and sub-bands. When DOC suggested the
change they commented that the existing sub-bands would be maintained by
"gentleman's agreement" among amateurs who were good at policing
themselves. I responded that this was nonsense because without legal
regulation there was absolutely no way to force anyone to observe a
so-called gentleman's agreement. I also predicted that amateurs using SSB would
eventually move down into the RTTY/CW portion of the bands and cause
problems.

Pete
[e-mail]



From [e-mail]  Thu Nov 18 11:56:52 1993
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    id AA14966; Thu, 18 Nov 1993 10:56:07 -0600 for [e-mail]
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1993 10:44:47 -0600 (CST)
From: Peter Hardie <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: New Product Ideas
To: [e-mail]
Cc: [e-mail]
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
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On Wed, 17 Nov 1993 [e-mail] wrote:

> **** This is easy.  You just make a binary encoding disk.
Make sure that the encoding is not pure binary or you could end up with
serious problems in reading the current position.
A pure binary encoding would have the "all zeroes" and "all ones" codes
adjacent to each other. It is very difficult to manufacture such a disk
so that the change from all ones to all zeroes (or vice versa) will be
read correctly. As the change occurs, some of the bits will read as ones
and some as zeroes giving a wildly incorrect indication of the position.
This problem will occur wherever more than one bit changes state at the
same time.
A Gray code should be used such that the change from one position to the
next involves only one bit change in the encoded number.

Pete
[e-mail]


From [e-mail]  Thu Nov 18 12:03:53 1993
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    id AA17170; Thu, 18 Nov 93 09:03:40 PST
    id AA27526; Thu, 18 Nov 93 09:03:37 PST
    id AA03226; Thu, 18 Nov 93 09:04:55 PST
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 93 09:04:55 PST
From: [e-mail] (Ray Anderson)
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  New Product Ideas


Re: electronic dial counters

Jerry Kaidor KF6VB writes:


>**** This is easy.  You just make a binary encoding disk.  Such a disk
>would have conductive or optical bands on it.  The innermost band would be
>half black/conductive/one, the other half white/insulating/zero.  The
>next outer band would divide the circle into four sections 1-0-1-0,
>the band after that into eight.  Four bands get you 16 unique positions,
>eight bands get you 256.  And there is no EEPROM to worry about, and no
>battery backups.


Jerry,
    Just to clarify your suggestion, are you proposing to drive the
optical disk off of a gear arrangement (or something equivalent) so that
the disk only turns a fraction of a turn for each turn of the dial shaft?

    When I first read you suggestion I first thought you were going
to mount the disk on the dial shaft since no mention was made of mechanical
reduction linkage between the shaft and the disk. It seems to me that such
an arrangement wouldn't be of much use for this application as it wouldn't
register multiple turns.

Ray Anderson  WB6TPU
[e-mail]

From [e-mail]  Thu Nov 18 13:22:06 1993
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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1993 10:23:09 -0800
To: [e-mail] (Jim Kearman)
From: [e-mail] (Wayne Burdick)
Subject: Q.R.O. and Q.R.P.
Cc: [e-mail], [e-mail], [e-mail]

Jim,

I appreciate your QRP history and defense, and I'm sure that after the dust
settles we'll all have learned something.   Not to lighten things up too
soon, but I thought this would be an appropriate time to reiterate my
opinion on the subject.


              Q.R.Oscar and Q.R.Pete

It happened in September, on a cold and stormy day;
The mother of all contests was now nearly underway.
Before the day was over, ears from Bonn to Surinam
Would hear a battle rage between two different breeds of Ham.

Oscar, a distinguished man of wisdom (and of wattage),
Lit his pipe and surveyed his substantial shortwave cottage.
"Let the games begin!" he cried, aglow with pride and power;
And with a grin he swung his twenty-ton rotating tower.

Not far away a man named Pete crouched low inside a tent,
His sleeping bag was soggy and his penlight made him squint,
Yet as he worked he smiled, twisting wires, tweaking pots,
And soon his rig was bristling with two hundred milliwatts.

Just after Zero, zero, Zero, zero (UTC),
Both men tuned up on twenty and they listened carefully,
But neither could believe his ears, and both began to pray:
On 14020 they heard "DE ZA1A".

Now Oscar moved up five Kc with dignity and class;
He gripped his paddle deftly and prepared to pound some brass.
The heterodynes were screeching, hungry birds caged in a zoo,
But he could snag Albania in one call--maybe two.

Pete took quite a different tack.  He scanned for open space,
Listening to the bedlam with a frown upon his face;
He tugged his random wire to improve its ERP,
And finally he found a place to sign "slash QRP."

Well Oscar's monster, fire-breathing signal was the best,
But Zed-A-1-A knew him, and felt sorry for the rest.
With this in mind he listened for the meager and the brave,
And ignored the QRO boys (who began to rant and rave).

Soon the DX station heard a wimpy "QRP";
He fired off a "599" and waited patiently.
But Pete was eating trailmix, now, and feeling quite dejected;
Being called by rare DX was not what he expected.

Oscar heard the call and moved in closer for the kill,
Yet when he thought his turn had come the Q-so lingered still:
     "So how much are you running?" "A quarter watt or less."
     "A homebrew rig?" "My own design, or mostly, I confess."
     "Well I'm a QRP fan, too; good attitude to foster,"
     Then ZA1A signed and said, "OK, it's your turn, Oscar."

On Sunday Pete packed up his gear, his low-watt mission done.
(Birds who'd perched upon HIS wire would live to tell their young.)
Pete surveyed the hills and fields, a wondrous sight to feast on;
Then he stuffed himself into his trusty, rusty Nissan.

And Oscar? He had ruled the night with clear, demonic vision;
Slicing QRM with his unleashed atomic fission.
But near the stroke of twelve, he cut his drive by two dB,
Then worked some rare DX and said, "Not bad for QRP!"

Wayne,
N6KR





From [e-mail]  Thu Nov 18 13:29:58 1993
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    id AA04105 for [e-mail]; Thu, 18 Nov 93 13:28:57 -0500
    id AA383042 ; Thu, 18 Nov 93 13:12:05 EST
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 93 18:09:16 GMT
Message-Id: <21927@jek>
From: [e-mail] (Jim Kearman)
To: [e-mail], [e-mail]
Subject: Re: ARRL e-mail addresses


Don't avoid joining the League over this ad! One page of
advertising vs hundreds of pages and several books devoted
to QRP is insignificant. Every ham should be a member of
the League. Quitting or refusing to join in "protest" is
a hollow victory. It's the paid-up members who decide
what happens.

The only reason there are no diehard QRPers on the Board
is because QRPers haven't tried to elect one. I've said
it before and I'll say it again: 30 people could change
the direction of the League. Two from each Division
could go to hamfest ARRL forums and complain about
something; if what they said made sense, the Director
would take note. When the Directors got together, they'd
all be talking about that issue, and it might happen.

It's easy to say "Oh, those boneheads at the League, I
want no part of them." Wayne Green encourages you to
keep in touch with your Director, and that's one thing
Wayne and I agree on! You can't win if you don't play.
Anyone who would like a League membership application is
encouraged to send me his or her mailing address and
I'll personally send you one.

73, Jim


From [e-mail]  Thu Nov 18 13:37:48 1993
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Date: 18 Nov 1993 13:35:38 -0500 (EST)
From: "D A Coleman (ext. 2850)" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Why Lose Sleep over Big Amp Ads?
To: tekbspa![e-mail]
Cc: [e-mail]
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here here!

From [e-mail]  Thu Nov 18 13:47:43 1993
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Date: 18 Nov 1993 13:45:56 -0500 (EST)
From: "D A Coleman (ext. 2850)" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: I wish it were a joke
To: [e-mail]
Cc: [e-mail]
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Thank the Lord, there's room for all of us qrp-er's and qro_er's on the
ham bands.  If all of us ran qrp, the ham bands would be crawling with
intruders.  Even--dare I say it?--qro has its place.

&2.518416

Don Coleman, W1VOQ

From [e-mail]  Thu Nov 18 14:05:47 1993
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          Nov 1993 13:04:29 CST
          13:03:06 GMT-5
From: "Kevin Anderson" <[e-mail]>
Organization:  Augustana College - Rock Island IL
To: [e-mail], [e-mail]
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1993 13:02:38 GMT-500
Subject: New Hamdom Blues
Priority: normal
X-Mailer:     PMail v3.0 (R1a)
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>

I must be reading to much the e-mail on these groups
and the bickering on Usenet, because they, and the
cloudy weather we've had here, brought this terribly
written, negative poem to my mind today.

                            Kevin Anderson,
                            KB9IUA, [e-mail]
----------------------------------------------------
          New Hamdom Blues

(or Is there such a thing as a friendly,
enjoyable hobby of Amateur Radio?)


Here I sit, relatively new to hamdom,
KB9IUA is the untried call the FCC gave me.
Reading countless mail, ads, and Usenet groups,
With people on all sides telling me how to be.

My story begins in the 1970s,
as KBDI 7204, a CBer for a short time,
and a listener, of shortwave that is,
using my dad's Halli S-38 from the early 50s.

I'd listen to BBC, VOA, ham sideband, and the like,
Now they tell me AFRS (Armed Forces Radio Service)
  has gone the way of satellite.
Oh how I'd sit there, huddled in my cold basement room,
hearing voices from afar,
   crackling with vacuum tubes the only light.

My high school CB days were short,
using a radio borrowed from my older brother.
Oh how my signal howled, as my friends told me--
it turns out the car door cut the coaxial cover.

Today, nearly 20 years later, I a rediscovered radio
much different than it was back then.
With new license structures, packet, etc.
and bickering, bickering around ever bend.

Code as a requirement for access to HF
is the question debated on rec.radio.amateur.ad naseum.
"Why do we need code?  I just want to talk."
"CW is dead. No it's not" all given loudly,
    like burning magnesium.

Bash the League, bash FCC.
"Amateur radio is a hobby, not a service."
Pronouncements made.  Defenses given.
Back and forth it goes, making everyone nervous.

Now I want to try QRP.
Low power, low impact, low cost radio
has always interested me,
even in this age of video.

But QRP is under the gun,
with amplifier this, beam antenna that.
And you can't use CW in the bands anymore,
as you fight the SSB, data, and big broadcasters bat.

I'm proud of my Novice license,
and I want to make the most of it privileges,
but, Oh, no, you must upgrade that ticket,
we can't have you playing around in the castoff ditches.

I didn't want the N9xxx call,
as at first I wasn't interested in that VHF-only mode,
but now I don't want it, even though I might try packet,
'cause I would be forever branded that plague of "no code".

Surely I must also be an outcast,
because I didn't just study the question pools,
instead I read all the books I could,
learned theory I did, but I'm by my call, KB9IUA, I'm still
   labeled a fool.

Now I seem to have a home among the boatanchor crowd,
but I've come into the hobby too late,
as the death knell seems to have sounded,
parts of hard to come by to fix that hollow state.

Solid state is now king,
ICs, op amps, and NE-602s,
now drive that direct conversion
or cascade-filtered appliance-operated digital tool.

Now it's dammed if I do, dammed if I don't.
Everywhere I turn is a minefield,
narrowing and changing the hobby I first new,
as everyone has weapons ready to wield.

I'm told by advertisers what to buy,
yet I have no way to tell them I just don't have money.
Those HTs, computers, or Icoms are rich man's toys,
and that just isn't funny.

If it's not that, then its the local laws
on how wide or how high,
if even at all,
that antenna can be put in the sky.

Now I'm an intelligent person, I assume,
So can make up my own mind about things,
but it is still disconcerting,
the amount of bickering (?) that takes place in the wings.

To end this mindless and sad poem,
let me finish with this plea,
let's all get together, congenial as can be,
or end this hobby by returning us to the sea.

------------------- end (about time) ------------------
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Kevin L. Anderson,     Geography Dept.,     Augustana College
Rock Island, Illinois   61201   USA     phone: [phone]
e-mail: [e-mail]  or [e-mail]
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

From [e-mail]  Thu Nov 18 14:06:37 1993
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    id AA04833; Thu, 18 Nov 93 09:06:22 HST
    id AA03505; Thu, 18 Nov 93 09:06:21 HST
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 93 9:06:20 HST
From: Jeff Herman <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Dan: it's no joke!
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>

Dan et al,
   As I said yesterday, the ad may be a joke but those KW's on 40M is
no joke; they are a real problem for us MW'ers (milliwatters - you 5W
guys are QRO to me!). And who in the world is Foghorn Leghorn?

Jeff NH6IL

From [e-mail]  Thu Nov 18 14:27:31 1993
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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 93 9:27:07 HST
From: Jeff Herman <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: [[e-mail]: Returned mail]
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>


Each time I post an article to the QRP group I get this error msg -
can someone please correct this?

Jeff
                ---------------

Date: 18 Nov 93 12:26:14 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Returned mail
To: [e-mail]
Message-Id:  <[e-mail]>

Your mail could not be delivered because of the following reason:


   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
The name 'twebb' is similar to the following 6 names.
Consider resending your message using one of them.

     Address:     [e-mail]
     Department:  Engineering

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   ----- Unsent message follows -----
>From uhunix.uhcc.hawaii.edu!jherman Thu Nov 18 02:00:44 1993 remote from ncrhub1
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    id AA16295; Wed, 17 Nov 93 19:46:43 HST
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 93 19:46:43 HST
From: Jeff Herman <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: I wish it were a joke
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>


The high power folks stepping on us little guys is no joke. Just think
if EVERYONE used qrp - can you imagine how pleasent the bands would be?
That ad might be a joke but once the KW is fired up, it's no longer funny.

Jeff NH6IL


From [e-mail]  Thu Nov 18 14:43:21 1993
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Date: 18 Nov 1993 14:40:12 -0500 (EST)
From: "D A Coleman (ext. 2850)" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: I wish it were a joke
To: [e-mail]
Cc: [e-mail]
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A very good idea about putting thos qro'er's on the band edges.  Here on the
mainland, it's being done at 3999 khz.  But at the low ends of the
cw bands, where the qrp'ing can be really good, the kw boys are already
doing a wicked job on us, along with lots of high-powered commercial
rtty stations.

What can I tell you?  It's a losin' fight!

72.787355

W1VOQ

From [e-mail]  Thu Nov 18 14:48:38 1993
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    id AA28021; Thu, 18 Nov 93 14:48:29 -0500
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 93 14:48:29 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Duane P Mantick)
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail], [e-mail], [e-mail]
Subject: Re: ARRL e-mail addresses

I can't resist being a smart-ass now and then...   :-)

Said KR1S:

30 people could change
the direction of the League.

You mean so few members actually vote?   :-)  :-)  :-)

Note liberal use of smileys......

Now only slightly LESS facetiously.....

Gee, maybe that means that we QRP types ought to get together and
stage a coup de tat, an infiltration if you will.  Put QRPers in all
the division director and board positions....then take over the FCC!

with a smile,

Duane/WB9OMC

From [e-mail]  Thu Nov 18 14:59:09 1993
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    for @sgi.sgi.com:[e-mail] id AA24118; Thu, 18 Nov 93 13:19:41 -0600
    for @sgidal.dallas.sgi.com:[e-mail] id AA07952; Thu, 18 Nov 93 13:19:40 -0600
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 93 13:19:40 -0600
From: [e-mail] (Chuck Adams)
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Solder


Wayne, N6KR,

After seeing my NorCal 40, asked me what I used to clean the boards.
Guess he thought I had done a fair job of soldering.  :-)

I use the 63/37 solder for all my work.  See the 1994, 1993, ... ARRL
Handbook, Construction Techniques Chapter 24 (Chptr 25 in the 1995 book)
and the graph of temperatures and stuff.  63/37 does not have a 'plastic'
phase and thus gives a nice shiney clean solder joint 99.9% of the time.
Gotta keep the tip clean though.

Here is the neat part.  The flux is water soluable, thus cleans nicely
with water and an old toothbrush.  Make sure you get all the old tooth-
paste outta the toothbrush though.  :-)  I did not do this, but can
imagine what would happen.  Someone told me the flux was peanut oil
based.  Maybe an expert in this group can comment on that 'factoid',
or 'factless' piece of information.

While I'm at it.  Remember the problem I had with my favorite soldering
iron?  I knew you would, this group beat me to death on it.  :-)
I found the spare cord, so I'm back in business, but more importantly
I found another tip.  IF YOU CAN fit your favorite iron with this tip,
go and get one.  It's an UNGAR iron-plated tip.  I don't have the part
number, but you pick your favorite size.  The one I have has the
pyramid shaped tip.  Works great for small boards and larger components
too, like PL-259 connectors, etc.  I use a 25-33W iron.  The spare
tip I just put on a Weller 30W iron and it works great.

OK.  All you newbies who wanna learn solid state design and construction
techniques.  Email to me.  You gotta, just gotta have the following
items:

1.  interest, lots of interest
2.  buy/own/beg/borrow/steal a copy of the 1994 ARRL Handbook or
    1993, but 1994 is better, as I will refer to it's page numbers.
3.  buy/own/..... a copy of Solid State Design for Radio Amateurs,
    also a ARRL pub.
4.  calculator or slide rule or CRC tables  :-)
5.  some spare time each week, about two hours or so to do homework
    THERE WILL BE QUIZES KIDS.  :-)
6.  surplus parts, like toroids, NE602s, etc. will help


The Chuck Adams University of Amateur Radio is about to begin.
Commitment on my part to be met by commitment on your part.  No quiters
allowed at all.  This course to be run via email.  I get enough flak
about traffic on [e-mail].  :-)

A Series of articles to appear in the QRPp Journal of NorCal Club.
(Provided Editor approves).  :-)
They will not appear here and all material is copyrighted by Twilight
Publishing Inc. and K5FO (me).

We are going to do Ab Initio instruction.  I assume you don't know
squat and we'll start from there.  Get your track shoes out.  This
will be theory and hardware.

EOT   dit   dit
SIG
------cut here----------
Chuck Adams, K5FO - CP60
[e-mail]
QRP ARCI Awards Chairman




From [e-mail]  Thu Nov 18 16:16:41 1993
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    id AA00512; Thu, 18 Nov 93 16:14:45 -0500
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 93 16:14:45 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Duane P Mantick)
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail], [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  Q.R.O. and Q.R.P.
Cc: [e-mail], [e-mail], [e-mail]

That was absolutely delightful!  I loved it, and forwarded it on
to several hams here at work.

Now to tie that in with KR1S's comments (which are well received here),
how about we start by having somebody read this poem over W1AW.....  :-)

Or perhaps use it some night for CW practice from W1AW.....

Duane
wb9omc

From [e-mail]  Thu Nov 18 16:44:52 1993
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    id AA01365; Thu, 18 Nov 93 16:44:29 -0500
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 93 16:44:29 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Duane P Mantick)
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail], [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  Solder

RE: Chuck Adams School of Amateur Radio

Chuck, I already have an AAS EET degree....do I get partial credit?  :-)

(plus 19 1/2 years experience as a ham.....)

Duane
wb9omc

From [e-mail]  Thu Nov 18 16:53:18 1993
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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 93 16:53:16 EST
From: Mark Shelhamer <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: What to buy???


QRPers --

It's getting to be holiday time, and I'm considering putting some
QRP gear on my with list. My question to you all is this: what
QRP transceiver do you recommend? I've seen reference to various
kits here, and I would prefer a kit version. What about the A&A kit?
How about the MFJ units? What are the good and bad points of these -
are there any that I should definitely avoid?

I'm looking for small. VFO control. Keyer included.

I don't want to start a raging debate over anyone's favorite rig; I just
want some basic info.

Thanks es 73
Mark WA3YNO


From [e-mail]  Thu Nov 18 16:54:27 1993
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    id AA06344; Thu, 18 Nov 93 13:52:15 PST
    id AA753659701 Thu, 18 Nov 93 13:55:01 PST
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 93 13:55:01 PST
From: [e-mail]
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: RE: New Hamdom Blues ...



  Civil etiquitte has not yet evolved for the use of the telephone, much
  less
  for E-mail.  But even discounting for this, I must agree with Kevin
  (KB9IUA)
  regarding the level of anger I hear on the two ham-related mailing lists
  I subscribe to:  info-hams and [e-mail].

  It's particularly surprising because we are reminded in all the new-ham
  literature, that such an etiquitte is
  expected of us on the air!  Perhaps its compensation for being
  so polite and restrained on the bands ;-)

  I have been a ham for over a year, and I'm now awaiting my Advanced
  ticket.
  While I may have used my ticket more than Kevin, each time on the air
  brings real trepitation.  Sometimes I'm just happy to be a shortwave
  listener.

  But I would encourage you, Kevin:

  1)  I have never encountered the temperature levels on the air, or
  meeting
      hams in person, that we find on the internet.

  2)  Join the ARRL.  It is the only real omnibus organization, even if
  some
      wheels on the bus are squeakier than others.  It needs you.

  3)  Focus on the facets of ham radio that really interest you, and ignore
      the others for the time being.  That way you just might have an
  impact
      in that small area.

  ||/*
  ||
  || Gary W. Thorburn   [e-mail]  KB1AIF  (soon to be KD1??)
  ||
  ||*/

From [e-mail]  Thu Nov 18 16:55:43 1993
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Message-Id: <9311181647.AA12426@itgmsm>
From: [e-mail]
To: [e-mail], [e-mail]
Subject: RE: The incredible shrinking 40 meter cw band.
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 93 08:47:00 PST
X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0


Brad Mitchell asks:

> I guess the question I have is, is everyone else having the same problems
> as me or is it just my qth proximity to VE land?
>
> P.S. does anybody know what the VE's legal bottom end for SSB is on 40?

Our legal bottom end for SSB on 40m is 7000 kHz.

There are no legal HF band plans in Canada, only a gentleperson's agreement;
the only legal restriction is the bandwidth of your signal (6 kHz for most
of HF, 1 kHz for 30m) and your power output (determined by your level of
theory qualification).

Most of us follow the spirit of the U.S. band plans, if not the exact
letter. Good neighbours and all that...it also helps to align our usage with
our southern neighbours, making it easier to talk to y'all.

73 from Burnaby,
laura VE7LDH

From [e-mail]  Thu Nov 18 17:06:42 1993
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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 93 17:10:57 EST
From: [e-mail] (Bob Applegate)
        id AA07441 for [e-mail]; Thu, 18 Nov 93 17:10:57 EST
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: ETO ad: local reaction

I'm a member of a fairly large club (250+ members) composed of mostly retired
folks (so what else is new?).  Last night was our meeting, and I mentioned the
ETO ad to our Section Manager, who is certainly a great guy who has been more
than patient listening to my comments in the past.  His only comment was "Those
QRPers should get a life!"  Okay, he's a friend, but he might not get my vote
for SM next time.

I continued the conversation by mentioning all the hoopla ARRL has made
recently about using minimal power to make a contact.  His reply was that
amps were needed for serious contest and DX work.  When asked why a local
QRPer (K2YY) was able to beat him in every contest they both operated in,
the SM's reply was that K2YY was just a better contester.  At that point,
I said "Exactly!" and walked away.

A few of the other folks at the meeting didn't think amps were necessary...
they all run "psuedo-QRP" with their 100 watt rigs!  This mindset is one of
the reasons it's tough to get anyone but middle and upper class people to
get involved with our hobby... our club recently had a "intro to ham radio"
session at a school in downtown Camden, NJ, which is NOT a wonderful place.
One of the young children made a comment like "wow, this sounds fun, but
my parents can't afford all this fancy equipment, so I can't become a ham."
We're doing a terrible job of showing how almost anyone can get into the
hobby.  If we do another session at the school this year, I'm going to take
one of my homebuilt QRP rigs and tell them that a friendly ham and a bit
of scrounging can put together a station for well under $100.

Okay, enough babbling.  If you really want to make your point about the
dumb ETO ad, send reasonable and intelligent comments to Brian Battles
and see if we can make ARRL see the light.

73
Bob
WA2ZZX


From [e-mail]  Thu Nov 18 19:39:44 1993
Return-Path: <[e-mail]>
    id AA01365; Thu, 18 Nov 93 16:44:29 -0500
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 93 16:44:29 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Duane P Mantick)
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail], [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  Solder

RE: Chuck Adams School of Amateur Radio

Chuck, I already have an AAS EET degree....do I get partial credit?  :-)

(plus 19 1/2 years experience as a ham.....)

Duane
wb9omc

From [e-mail]  Thu Nov 18 19:50:00 1993
Return-Path: <[e-mail]>
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 93 16:53:16 EST
From: Mark Shelhamer <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: What to buy???


QRPers --

It's getting to be holiday time, and I'm considering putting some
QRP gear on my with list. My question to you all is this: what
QRP transceiver do you recommend? I've seen reference to various
kits here, and I would prefer a kit version. What about the A&A kit?
How about the MFJ units? What are the good and bad points of these -
are there any that I should definitely avoid?

I'm looking for small. VFO control. Keyer included.

I don't want to start a raging debate over anyone's favorite rig; I just
want some basic info.

Thanks es 73
Mark WA3YNO


From [e-mail]  Thu Nov 18 20:20:26 1993
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    id AA09480; Thu, 18 Nov 93 13:55:51 -0800
Message-Id: <9311181647.AA12426@itgmsm>
From: [e-mail]
To: [e-mail], [e-mail]
Subject: RE: The incredible shrinking 40 meter cw band.
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 93 08:47:00 PST
X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0


Brad Mitchell asks:

> I guess the question I have is, is everyone else having the same problems
> as me or is it just my qth proximity to VE land?
>
> P.S. does anybody know what the VE's legal bottom end for SSB is on 40?

Our legal bottom end for SSB on 40m is 7000 kHz.

There are no legal HF band plans in Canada, only a gentleperson's agreement;
the only legal restriction is the bandwidth of your signal (6 kHz for most
of HF, 1 kHz for 30m) and your power output (determined by your level of
theory qualification).

Most of us follow the spirit of the U.S. band plans, if not the exact
letter. Good neighbours and all that...it also helps to align our usage with
our southern neighbours, making it easier to talk to y'all.

73 from Burnaby,
laura VE7LDH

From [e-mail]  Thu Nov 18 20:30:44 1993
Return-Path: <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 93 17:10:57 EST
From: [e-mail] (Bob Applegate)
        id AA07441 for [e-mail]; Thu, 18 Nov 93 17:10:57 EST
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: ETO ad: local reaction

I'm a member of a fairly large club (250+ members) composed of mostly retired
folks (so what else is new?).  Last night was our meeting, and I mentioned the
ETO ad to our Section Manager, who is certainly a great guy who has been more
than patient listening to my comments in the past.  His only comment was "Those
QRPers should get a life!"  Okay, he's a friend, but he might not get my vote
for SM next time.

I continued the conversation by mentioning all the hoopla ARRL has made
recently about using minimal power to make a contact.  His reply was that
amps were needed for serious contest and DX work.  When asked why a local
QRPer (K2YY) was able to beat him in every contest they both operated in,
the SM's reply was that K2YY was just a better contester.  At that point,
I said "Exactly!" and walked away.

A few of the other folks at the meeting didn't think amps were necessary...
they all run "psuedo-QRP" with their 100 watt rigs!  This mindset is one of
the reasons it's tough to get anyone but middle and upper class people to
get involved with our hobby... our club recently had a "intro to ham radio"
session at a school in downtown Camden, NJ, which is NOT a wonderful place.
One of the young children made a comment like "wow, this sounds fun, but
my parents can't afford all this fancy equipment, so I can't become a ham."
We're doing a terrible job of showing how almost anyone can get into the
hobby.  If we do another session at the school this year, I'm going to take
one of my homebuilt QRP rigs and tell them that a friendly ham and a bit
of scrounging can put together a station for well under $100.

Okay, enough babbling.  If you really want to make your point about the
dumb ETO ad, send reasonable and intelligent comments to Brian Battles
and see if we can make ARRL see the light.

73
Bob
WA2ZZX


From [e-mail]  Fri Nov 19 05:19:52 1993
Return-Path: <[e-mail]>
    id AA20640; Fri, 19 Nov 93 11:19:36 +0100
    id AA20989; Fri, 19 Nov 93 11:19:23 +0100
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 93 11:19:23 +0100
From: [e-mail] (Martin Zurn)
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail], [e-mail]
Subject: Pse ignore if ur not in Europe (EU Contest Reminder)

Hi CW Fans,
Hope to hear u in the EUCW test this weekend
Times Sa 15-17,18-20Z So 7-9,10-12Z
Exchange: RST/QTH/NAME/CW-CLUB/CLUB MBRSHIP NR
Classes: QRO/QRP/non-mbrs/SWL
"Clubs" are all member clubs of the EUCW
(e.g. GQRP,HSC,VHSC,AGCW,UFT,FISTS...)

Support ur local CW club and send in the log...
(u'll sure find a detailed contest description
somewhere. If not, drop me a line...)

I'll be there in the QRP class
73 de IK2RMZ (599/VARESE/MARTIN/AGCW/897)

From [e-mail]  Fri Nov 19 08:47:15 1993
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    id AA17173; Fri, 19 Nov 93 08:48:43 -0500
Reply-To: [e-mail]
  (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for <[e-mail]>); Fri, 19 Nov 1993 08:44:25 -0500
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1993 08:44:25 -0500
From: Brad Mitchell <[e-mail]>
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: The incredible shrinking 40 meter cw band.


WOW!
Thanks everybody for the responses, I would have included some,
but I deleted them...
anyway, I guess My worst fear is true, that the bottom of 40 m for Canadian
Hams on SSB is 7.000 Mhz.

Two of 4 responses were Canadians, and they expressed concern over the problem,
and were obviously much more aware of it than I ever was.

Well, I hope that it doesn't get too out of control, but I'm having problems
lately.  I like 7057, or used to. I have a crystal on it for my spider.

Also I thought I heard a ssb station on 7040 one day... But let's not
accuse our friends accross the lake for all the qrm, could be dx, I don't know.

73 all, and happy qrping. Brad WB8YGG


From [e-mail]  Fri Nov 19 08:57:39 1993
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    id AA14001; Fri, 19 Nov 93 08:49:17 -0500
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 93 08:49:17 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Duane P Mantick)
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail], [e-mail], [e-mail]
Subject: RE: The incredible shrinking 40 meter cw band.

Laura said:

"Most of us follow the spirit of the U.S. band plans, if not the exact
letter. Good neighbours and all that...it also helps to align our usage with
our southern neighbours, making it easier to talk to y'all."

Speaking as one who tries to be one of those neighbors, I might add that
in nearly 20 years of hamming *I* have never heard a single VE/VO or
whatever canadian call that acted like such a bunch of jerks as some of
my US counterparts.  That doesn't mean that there aren't any, of course, but
I dare say that I think we US hams could perhaps learn some manners from
our neighbors to the north.

It possibly also suggests that by "reserving" too many segments for this and
that, it brings out defensiveness and hostility in some people.  While I
am not in favor of total anarchy on the bands - some organization is
indeed helpful - I hear much clamoring for a "segment for this, a segment
for that".  I'm not sure how much a continued splintering of the bands is
going to help......

Duane
wb9omc

From [e-mail]  Fri Nov 19 09:24:28 1993
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    id HAA10718; Fri, 19 Nov 1993 07:23:44 -0700
    id AA28046; Fri, 19 Nov 93 07:24:57 -0700
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 93 07:24:57 -0700
From: [e-mail] (Tom J Farish)
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail], [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  What to buy???

I have homebrewed for a while and I am impressed with the MFJ units.  Maybe
I'm just not too good at building things, but I have a hard time making
good receivers.  For the money, it's hard to beat the assembled MFJ units.
If I enjoyed thick brown smoke more (like Jeff Gold seems to), I'd build
more.

Anyway, I now own two MFJ CW rigs - one on 20m and one on 30 (both bought
used).  The 30m rig is one of the newer one and is definately better on
audio than the older ones.  I put in the optional keyer (you have to modify
it for the usual Curtis keying...just a jumper to solder) and the 20m has
the optional filter.  I've also added a simple audio amp for the older 20m
rig.  All in all, they are small, easy to use, sensitive and inexpensive.

Maybe if I bought of the $150-$200 kits folks are writing about, I'd fall
in love with one and drop the MFJ's.  We'll see.

Happy Holidays!  I'm going to buy myself a SWR analyzer for X-mas!

Tom
KJ5LT
..

From [e-mail]  Fri Nov 19 09:47:57 1993
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    id AA14945; Fri, 19 Nov 93 09:47:50 -0500
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 93 09:47:50 -0500
From: [e-mail] (CONTRACTOR Larry Keith;653 CCSG/SCT)
Subject: Re: Sheet Metal Brake ?
To: [e-mail]
Cc: [e-mail]
X-Orig-Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1993 20:47:06 GMT
X-Orig-From: [e-mail] (BOB BERLYN)
X-Orig-Message-Id: <[e-mail]>

In your message of 13 Nov 1993 at 1249 EST, you write:
> Hi every one !
>
> Does any one know where I can find an small inexpensive (Cheap but not
> poor quality) sheet metal brake sutable for making cabnets for my QRP
> projects?
>
Yes, I keep forgetting to look in the catalog!! It's Northern
something, an outfit that sells small gas engines, tools, trailer
stuff, etc...

I have it at home.. Will try to dig it out, this weekend..

73,

Larry, KQ4BY

From [e-mail]  Fri Nov 19 10:15:04 1993
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    id AA02184 for [e-mail]; Fri, 19 Nov 93 10:14:20 -0500
    id AA384016 ; Fri, 19 Nov 93 09:57:14 EST
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 93 14:16:53 GMT
Message-Id: <22042@jek>
From: [e-mail] (Jim Kearman)
To: [e-mail], [e-mail], [e-mail][e-mail]
Subject: Re: Our current discussion topics


Voting in ARRL elections may be a little better than in
national elections, because you get to do it via the mail.
Neither rain nor snow nor bribed clerics.... but I may be
wrong; I haven't checked the statistics, nor do I intend to.

Today is election day at ARRL, and the ballots are being
opened and counted as I type this. The room is, of course,
off limits to all but those involved in the process. I
discovered this when I went to check my viewgraphs for a
talk I'm giving tonight, and found the room with the
screen in use!

Anyway, I would really like to be a part of a ham radio
that had a 100-W power limit worldwide, as I think it
would be more exciting, but I know I will never see this.
Someone mentioned keeping away the intruders. Well, do
we need a few hundred contesters running 1500 W lined up
on all the bands to do this? The only real benefit I see
coming from all the high-power stuff is improved receiver
front-end design!

[An aside: A few of the staff QRPers had an idea for an ad
counter to ETO's and Command Technologies' (yes, their ad
says "Life's too short for QRP," but at least it doesn't have
the obnoxious photo of K7SS). I won't give the gory details,
but it involves a QROer who's just been terminated with extreme
prejudice by his neighbor because of TVI. The caption: "Life's
too short with QRO!"]

When QRP-ARCI was founded, they defined QRP as 100 W output
max. Adrian Weiss, author of Joy of QRP and History of QRP
in the US, is credited with coining the term QRPp, meaning 5
W or less. (On CW, it was hard to tell if the other station
was running 5 W or suffering a memory lapse.) Later, the club
was taken over by the 5-W crowd, and you had to certify that
you would never run more than 5 W. This brainstorm kept out
people like Wes Hayward and Doug Demaw; Hayward was doing some
moonbounce and Demaw was fooling around on 160 meters, both
pursuits that justify running more than 5 W on occasion. Now
the requirements are sane: an interest in 5 W operation, but
you're allowed to run the legal limit if you feel the need to.

This is crucial. I have friends (yep!) who are "experienced" hams
with Extra class licenses, but they won't go on the air without
the amplifier. It's not ignorance, it's lack of confidence. "I'm
not sure I have the skills to make this QSO, so I need my afterburner
to make sure." Some of these people have crises of faith and take the
QRP pledge; the rest are probably lost. Ads that prey on the fears and
insecurities (I guess all ads do) like the Alpha ad can damage the
hobby, by scaring newcomers and confirming the anxieties of the "I can't
do it alone" crowd. Oh, and some people are too impatient to wait for a
QSO; they often make lousy pistol shooters, by the way.

In History of QRP, Weiss talks about recapturing the thrills
of his early QSOs by using QRP. I go along with that. Obviously,
then, we have to ensure that people continue to have thrilling
QSOs early in their careers, preferably with less-than-optimum
equipment. That's how confidence is built. My first transmitter
was QRP (6V6 osc), but in 1962, that was due to not having any
money, rather than a desire to be a QRPer. Another way of looking
at this is, that QRPers are looking for a challenge; QROers are
looking for the easy way.

Typical Novice transmitters in the 60s were crystal controlled
(by law) and limited to 75 W input (also law). Thus, they were
relatively inexpensive and easy to build. I think 75-100 W is
about right for HF Novice/Tech-band operation. The beginner needs
a little better signal/noise ratio when learning the trade,
and that power level seems to work well. Maybe what we need
initially, is a SIMPLE rig with detachable 100-W amp. Crystal
control is cheap enough if you buy from CW Crystals; factoring
in inflation, it's cheaper to buy FT-243s now than when I was
a Novice. I have a ton of his crystals! Building a radio and
making QSOs with it gets you hooked. As your skills improve,
you can reduce power. This may be the best route to growing new
QRPers in the future.

Comments appreciated. Mine are Copyright ARRL, 1993. All rights
reserved.

72/73, Jim, KR1S

--
[e-mail]



From [e-mail]  Fri Nov 19 10:29:58 1993
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    id AA12109; Fri, 19 Nov 1993 10:28:29 -0500
    id AA04362; Fri, 19 Nov 93 10:28:46 EST
    id AA24837; Fri, 19 Nov 93 10:28:30 EST
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
    id AA07019; Fri, 19 Nov 93 10:28:29 EST
To: [e-mail] (Chuck Adams)
Cc: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Solder
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 18 Nov 93 13:19:40 CST."
             <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 93 10:28:29 EST
From: "John F. Woods" <[e-mail]>

> OK.  All you newbies who wanna learn solid state design and construction
> techniques.  Email to me.  You gotta, just gotta have the following
> items:
> 1.  interest, lots of interest
> 2.  buy/own/beg/borrow/steal a copy of the 1994 ARRL Handbook or
>     1993, but 1994 is better, as I will refer to it's page numbers.
> 3.  buy/own/..... a copy of Solid State Design for Radio Amateurs,
>     also a ARRL pub.
> 4.  calculator or slide rule or CRC tables  :-)
> 5.  some spare time each week, about two hours or so to do homework
>     THERE WILL BE QUIZES KIDS.  :-)

Oh, what the heck, I'll go for it.  I'd like to think I'm probably more advanced
than the intended audience, but this is probably a good way to find out what I
don't know that I think I do :-).

However...any chance I can get by on a 1992 Handbook?  Some years ago, I discovered
that, by sheer chance, I had bought a Handbook every four years since 1976, and I'd
hate to break the pattern now :-).

> 6.  surplus parts, like toroids, NE602s, etc. will help

You know, this actually gives me an idea for a USENET article (or heck, maybe even
a print article):  what to buy to have a "well stocked junque box", especially if
you can splurge every now and then on e.g. new resistors instead of having to rely
exclusively on junked 1950's TV sets...

From [e-mail]  Fri Nov 19 10:31:13 1993
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    id AA11417; Fri, 19 Nov 93 10:30:37 EST
    id AA10295; Fri, 19 Nov 93 10:31:00 EST
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 93 10:31:00 EST
From: [e-mail] (Doug Snowden)
Message-Id: <9311191531.AA10295@pd2>
To: [e-mail], [e-mail], [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  What to buy???

I have found that I could be successful in building stuff, receivers included,
if I divide the thing up in as small blocks as possible, i.e., build a board
that contains just the VFO or BFO or whatever and test it the best I can before
I go to the next module. It saves a lot of trouble. If you don't have a lot of
test equipment (like me) try and use things like your station transmitter to
generate a signal. When testing transmitters (definitely a marginal method) I
listen to the signal on my station receiver. I once had a problem with a TX I
built - it kept blowing the final transistor PA. If I had a dummy load on it
it seemed fine. As soon as I hooked it up to an antenna - pow! there went the
PA stage. Well, to make a long story short, it turned out that the VFO was
putting out all sorts of spurs. I think I could hear on the receiver, 6 or 8
of them on 20 meters alone. Who knows where else they were. Since the TX was
broadbanded, it was passing all of that to the antenna. I had a filter on the
output, but I'm sure that there were signals that were seeing high SWR from the
antenna. Well, I never would have figured that out without listening to the
signal. Now I have a scope that helps a lot. Of course a spectrum analyzer
would be nice too.    Maybe for Christmas?  Fat chance!

73's Doug, N4IJ

From [e-mail]  Fri Nov 19 10:34:24 1993
Return-Path: <[e-mail]>
    id AA16239; Fri, 19 Nov 93 10:34:08 -0500
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 93 10:34:08 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Duane P Mantick)
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail][e-mail], [e-mail], [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Our current discussion topics

Says Jim:

" Maybe what we need
initially, is a SIMPLE rig with detachable 100-W amp. "

Great idea.  For the relatively simple rig, I might ahve suggested the
Uniden HR2510 (UN-modifed with some of the power hacks), but I gather that
Uniden gave up on making it.  Too bad, I am so pleased with mine as a
"simple" rig, not outrageously expensive either (I've seen people spend WAY
more).

Whiel QRP diehards cringe at the idea of me calling it QRP (the needle on
my tuner rarely registers over 10 watts) perhaps if there is QRP and
QRPp, we can have a class for Uniden 2510/2600 and Radio Shack HTX100
owners...

QRP+    :-)  :-)  well, 1/2 smiley anyway.....

I have spoken to quite a few such folks on 10 meters.  Maybe a QRP+ club
for folks running less than 25 watts.....

Duane
wb9omc

From [e-mail]  Fri Nov 19 10:56:31 1993
Return-Path: <[e-mail]>
    id AA09306; Fri, 19 Nov 93 09:52:43 CST
    id AA08433; Fri, 19 Nov 93 10:02:27 CST
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 93 10:02:27 CST
From: [e-mail] (Brian Cieslak)
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: QRO-QRP discusssion

When Jim, KR1S, brought up the point about a detachable amp for low power rigs that reminded me that there was a time that Ten Tec made a 100 W amplifier for the argonaut.  That in it self isn't news but I also remember that the dealers couldn't keep them on the shelves. New ones were always sold out and used ones didn't stay on the shelf long...

My question is. If QRP ops thought so badly about QRO what were all these argonaut owners doing with these amplifiers and why can't you find any even today???

I Guess I'm tired of this thread...Let talk about fun stuff again...
Does anyone use wooden cabinets or their rigs anymore?

73,
Brian
AE9K

From [e-mail]  Fri Nov 19 11:04:02 1993
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    id AA09374; Fri, 19 Nov 93 10:00:14 CST
    id AA08544; Fri, 19 Nov 93 10:09:58 CST
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 93 10:09:58 CST
From: [e-mail] (Brian Cieslak)
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Solder


Chuck,

Who manufactures that solder you use? We've been looking for a solder with a water soluble flux core for a while so we can get rid of tehe cans of Flux Off we've been using. Ours Techs are starting to act kind of strange and thier starting grow extra appendages from areas on their body you wouldn't expect to see any. Normally we wouldn`t care but we`re switching health care plans here and they expressed some concern about the in coherent behaviour of some of our employees. In the past we would just pass them off as managment trainees.

73,
Brian  AE9K

From [e-mail]  Fri Nov 19 11:36:01 1993
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    id AA10859; Fri, 19 Nov 93 11:35:31 EST
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
    (16.6/16.2) id AA01143; Fri, 19 Nov 93 11:35:27 -0500
From: Tom_Jennings <[e-mail]>
Subject: QRP-QRO
To: [e-mail] (qrp mailling list)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 93 11:35:26 EST
Mailer: Elm [revision: 66.25]

Hi,
Just to add my $0.02.   Last night on 40 cw  I heard a very weak WB2 (228) so I
called using 5 watts  He answered  and gave me a 319 but asked me to qro so
I complied with 100 watts.  You know what?  No difference in signal!  Well
we had a rough time copying each other.  I did mangage to get his QTH in
Naples, Fl.  I enjoyed the challenge.

I like hunting for the weak  guys and most of the time they come
back.
--
73,

TJ,  kv2x

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From [e-mail]  Fri Nov 19 11:52:34 1993
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    id <[e-mail]>; Fri, 19 Nov 93 11:24:34 PST
From: "Webb, Ted" <[e-mail]>
To: QRP-Request <[e-mail]>
Subject: Unsubscribe
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 93 11:19:00 PST
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Have to temp unsubscribe to clear the buffer and isolate some weird EMail
traffic. I'll be back!

ted / AC4CS

From [e-mail]  Fri Nov 19 11:56:41 1993
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From: Edward Parish <[e-mail]>
    id AA24124; Fri, 19 Nov 93 11:56:41 EST
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 93 11:56:41 EST
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Subject: Unsubscribe

   From: "Webb, Ted" <[e-mail]>
   Date: Fri, 19 Nov 93 11:19:00 PST


   Have to temp unsubscribe to clear the buffer and isolate some weird EMail
   traffic. I'll be back!

   ted / AC4CS

I changed your mail address to [e-mail] from
[e-mail] because of some mail weirdness.  Couldn't resolve
your name from some other peoples names, ones that were totally unrelated:

To: [e-mail]
In-reply-to: Jeff Herman's message of Thu, 18 Nov 93 12:27:25 HST <[e-mail]>
Subject: [[e-mail]: Returned mail]
--text follows this line--
   Date: Thu, 18 Nov 93 12:27:25 HST
   From: Jeff Herman <[e-mail]>

   hee hee hee - i got an error msg about the error msg.

That's because you sent that one to [e-mail] and not
[e-mail].

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   Each time I post an article to the QRP group I get this error msg -
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   The high power folks stepping on us little guys is no joke. Just think
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   That ad might be a joke but once the KW is fired up, it's no longer funny.

   Jeff NH6IL





From [e-mail]  Fri Nov 19 12:15:18 1993
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Date: 19 Nov 1993 12:13:20 -0500 (EST)
From: "D A Coleman (ext. 2850)" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Sheet Metal Brake ?
To: [e-mail]
Cc: [e-mail]
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I surely hope you do look up--and find--that reference
to "Great Northern" something.

Just another request to spur the quest.

72.343188

Don Coleman, W1VOQ

From [e-mail]  Fri Nov 19 12:25:40 1993
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   with BSMTP id 8055; Fri, 19 Nov 93 09:25:21 PST
Date:    Fri, 19 Nov 93 09:24 PST
To: [e-mail](Chuck Adams)
Cc: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Solder
From: Michael Stein                        <[e-mail]>

I'll go for it..

> 2.  buy/own/beg/borrow/steal a copy of the 1994 ARRL Handbook or
>     1993, but 1994 is better, as I will refer to it's page numbers.

1965? 1982? 1988?  Might be time for a new copy...

> 6.  surplus parts, like toroids, NE602s, etc. will help

no NE602's,  have to use something else...  Wonder if the SBL-1's
from the swap meet work...

From [e-mail]  Fri Nov 19 12:37:54 1993
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No - the problem I'm experiencing is a strange one. Somewhere/somehow I've
been added to an unrequested email list. I keep getting unwanted messages on
unwanted subjects. We have not been able to isolate the source, so since I
am subscribed to QRP, Boatanchors, and DX, plus the unknown, I'm temp
unsubscribing to the ones I have control over so we can monitor any that
come in, uninvited so to speak. Hopefully by Monday or Tuesday, we will have
solved the  problem. So, hang on to my address, but unsubscribe until I can
get back to you.

thanks,
ted/ac4cs

From [e-mail]  Fri Nov 19 13:41:14 1993
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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 93 10:40:41 PST
From: [e-mail] (Paul Blumstein)
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  What to buy???

Mark Shelhamer wrote:
+
+ What about the A&A kit?
+How about the MFJ units? What are the good and bad points of these -
+are there any that I should definitely avoid?

I had the 30M A&A QRP kit.  It worked very well until it broke
due to coax braid coming off the PL259 connector and scrooching
something.  However, there are two downsides that I ran into:
    - A&A wasn't a whole lot of help helping me debug the p-roblem.
    - It doesn't have RIT.

I don't consider the first point too severe, but I believe that RIT
is mandatory.

    Paul

From [e-mail]  Fri Nov 19 13:54:03 1993
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Date:     Fri, 19 Nov 93 13:54:07 EST
From: Clark Fishman (FSAC-FCD) <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Cc: [e-mail]
Subject:  Metal Brake
Message-Id:  <[e-mail]>

You mean Northern Hydraulics

From [e-mail]  Fri Nov 19 14:29:04 1993
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From: [e-mail] (Randy)
Subject: Re: wooden radios
To: [e-mail] (Brian Cieslak)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1993 14:28:18 -0500 (EST)
Cc: [e-mail]
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> I Guess I'm tired of this thread...Let talk about fun stuff again...
> Does anyone use wooden cabinets or their rigs anymore?
>
> 73,
> Brian
> AE9K
>
YES!  My #26 1 tube rig is built on a wood base...so is the powersupply.

Up and coming will be a 1 tube receiver ( to go with #26 ) which will be
on a wood base...but the front panel will have a hidden tin-foil shield
to reduce 'hand capacity effects'.

These are tho, all open air sets..... none yet made to go IN a real
cabinet....as I'm no cabinet maker, it would come out so bad even the
birds wouldn't use it for a house.

By the way...Yeasu made a rig...ft-101-d (?) with a removable 100watt amp
so one could run it as a 10 watt set.
KA1ZAS has one ( but no longer uses it I guess )



--
Randy KA1UNW              If you get a shock while
                         servicing  your  equipment,         "Works for me!"
randy@192.153.4.200             DON'T  JUMP!                     -Peter Keyes
                     You might break an expensive tube!

From [e-mail]  Fri Nov 19 14:42:58 1993
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From: [e-mail] (Randy)
Subject: Re: Our current discussion topics-2510 set
To: [e-mail] (Duane P Mantick)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1993 14:42:11 -0500 (EST)
Cc: [e-mail]
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]> from "Duane P Mantick" at Nov 19, 93 10:34:08 am
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I had one of those 2510 things...got it 2nd hand and it had been messed with.
So before I got it on the air, I had to readj it...remove some jumperwires
that made it be a Chicken Band set...and return all the trimpots to where
the set sent a signal rather than strange static.

That set ran VERY nice at 4.5 watts.....3 trimpots at the rear half of the
board have to do with ssb power, meter adjustments.
2 in the front half, control CW  and the other 2 modes

I disabled the unused modes and set it up to run 4.5 watts CW /SSB.

Using SSB and an 8 ft wire laid across a bush, I got Estonia. (89)...
so it must have worked!

I also had the HDX100...radio shacks version ( almost same) of 2510.

It was very easy to set up for 1 watt/ 5watts SSB/CW ... and already had
the other modes removed.

BOTH radios:  The 'dial' light uses 1/2 amp of power! So anyone wanting
to go super-portable, will want to add a switch ( or ckt that self shuts
off after 30 sec?) to kill that light.
Then it is actually feasable to run it on 8 D cell alkylines ( for short
short TX and a whole day of Rx ... say 5% duty cycle, T-R wise.)


--
Randy KA1UNW              If you get a shock while
                         servicing  your  equipment,         "Works for me!"
randy@192.153.4.200             DON'T  JUMP!                     -Peter Keyes
                     You might break an expensive tube!

From [e-mail]  Fri Nov 19 14:57:16 1993
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Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
From: [e-mail] (Randy)
Subject: Re: What to buy???& using shack gear as test gear
To: [e-mail] (Doug Snowden)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1993 14:56:02 -0500 (EST)
Cc: [e-mail]
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YES! I'm always using my Rx set to fish around for signals created by
what I am working on....this includes my 6J7 regenerating receiver...
which has no image problems!
          ##

Yes...a scope helps...if it will run up to the freq yer on, you can look
at the sine waves...adjust the sweep to see at least 10-20 of em in a row.
....see if EACH one is the same hight....if not, you have harmonix.
Tuning the output, you can see the waves change, and that the power meter
lies like a rug! That meter sez all kinds of stuff that just ain't happening.

If you have vhf parasitics, a TV set will show you them.
If you have low freq parasitics, the sine wave will look fuzzy and chubby.

Now switch over to a slow sweep...like 20-60 cps and key the rig a lot.
You'll see the wave shape and can tell if its 'right' or not.

( On QRP, a sharp make and break helps in being heard, while if very QRO,
a soft make-break is good enough ... and you can see this on the scope)

--
Randy KA1UNW              If you get a shock while
                         servicing  your  equipment,         "Works for me!"
randy@192.153.4.200             DON'T  JUMP!                     -Peter Keyes
                     You might break an expensive tube!

From [e-mail]  Fri Nov 19 15:01:50 1993
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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 93 15:01:45 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Duane P Mantick)
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail], [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Our current discussion topics-2510 set
Cc: [e-mail]

Yeah, for a long time I ran my 2510 on a 12volt 6.6 Amphour gelcell.  It
worked, although far from ideal.  In an emergency, though, or for some
limited portable use this would be dandy IFF you couild find a well-matching
antenna.

I have been known to take this rig mobile.  I use that Radio Shack
mag-mount antenna that trims well into 10 meters.  You know, that radio has
*always* worked better out of my car than at home.....  :-)

Duane

From [e-mail]  Fri Nov 19 15:12:25 1993
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Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
From: [e-mail] (Randy)
Subject: Re: 88mh toroids (Was: Re:  Honeycomb coils)
To: censun1![e-mail] (Gary Chatters)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1993 15:11:26 -0500 (EST)
Cc: [e-mail]
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]> from "Gary Chatters" at Nov 19, 93 11:36:28 am
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Fair radio Sales still has a few...else ones that are similar.
--
Randy KA1UNW              If you get a shock while
                         servicing  your  equipment,         "Works for me!"
randy@192.153.4.200             DON'T  JUMP!                     -Peter Keyes
                     You might break an expensive tube!

From [e-mail]  Fri Nov 19 16:02:44 1993
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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1993 15:57:49 -0500 (EST)
From: "John A. Evans" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Solder
To: Duane P Mantick <[e-mail]>
Cc: [e-mail], [e-mail]
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
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OK, what about us former enlisted technicians who became electrical
engineering officers ???  &^)

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From [e-mail]  Fri Nov 19 16:07:49 1993
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    id AA24891; Fri, 19 Nov 93 16:07:47 EST
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 93 16:07:47 EST
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Recent Email


Bruce, WT1M, who administers the QRP list is away in some sunny climate on
vacation this week and next.  I have agreed to administer the list in his
absence.  However, I have noticed that there have been quite a number of
bounced mail messages that have been filling up my mail buffer lately.  I
am talking about 100's of messages.  I administer other lists for ANSI and
do not see the same order of magnitude of bad addresses and lunched
mailers.  So please, make sure that your mailer is working, your input
buffers are not overflowing (you have disk space to receive mail), your
email address is still valid, and if there are any changes to be made,
please send them to [e-mail].  Now back to your regularly
scheduled program.  Thanks.

73
Ed


From [e-mail]  Fri Nov 19 17:22:18 1993
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From: [e-mail] (karayannopoulos,george)
To: [e-mail]
Date: 19 Nov 1993  17:20 EST
Subject: Fair Radio Sales

Somebody mentioned Fair Radio Sales and their catalog and posted phone #s.
I called and called and called, but they were always busy. Finally I got
through via fax. I sent in a request for their catalog. That was abt 10
days ago. I have not received anything. Is there a charge for the catalog?
___________________________________________________________________
George Karayannopoulos              N2OWO
[e-mail]             Bellcore, Red Bank, NJ
Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are mine and not my employer's.

From [e-mail]  Fri Nov 19 18:05:45 1993
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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 93 18:06:21 -0500
From: [e-mail] (CONTRACTOR Larry Keith;653 CCSG/SCT)
Subject: Re: Our current discussion topics-2510 set
To: [e-mail]
X-Orig-Date: Fri, 19 Nov 93 15:01:45 -0500
X-Orig-From: [e-mail] (Duane P Mantick)
X-Orig-Message-Id: <[e-mail]>

In your message of 19 Nov 1993 at 1629 EST, you write:
> I have been known to take this rig mobile.  I use that Radio Shack
> mag-mount antenna that trims well into 10 meters.  You know, that radio has
> *always* worked better out of my car than at home.....  :-)
>
That's why I bought the RS rig.. And, I agree with you.. Works better
in the car!!

Son of a gun!  I'm a QRPer and didn't even know it...8-]]

72 (I can finally write that!),

Larry

From [e-mail]  Fri Nov 19 18:34:29 1993
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    id AA22673; Fri, 19 Nov 93 18:34:23 -0500
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 93 18:34:23 -0500
From: [e-mail] (CONTRACTOR Larry Keith;653 CCSG/SCT)
Subject: Re: Sheet Metal Brake ?
To: [e-mail]
Cc: [e-mail]
X-Orig-Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1993 20:47:06 GMT
X-Orig-From: [e-mail] (BOB BERLYN)
X-Orig-Message-Id: <[e-mail]>

In your message of 13 Nov 1993 at 1249 EST, you write:
> Hi every one !
>
> Does any one know where I can find an small inexpensive (Cheap but not
> poor quality) sheet metal brake sutable for making cabnets for my QRP
> projects?
>
OK, Company is Northern Hydraulics, P. O. Box 1499, Burnsville, MN
55337-0499   1-800-533-5545

Item 15240, "Bendito" Heavy Duty Metal Bending Brake, $259.99

Looks good!

I know nothing about these folks.  I just get their catalogs.

73,

Larry, KQ4BY

From [e-mail]  Fri Nov 19 19:26:28 1993
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    id AA03900; Fri, 19 Nov 93 17:26:18 MST
    id AA29138; Fri, 19 Nov 93 17:26:16 MST
    id AA00309; Fri, 19 Nov 93 18:25:43 CST
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 93 18:25:43 CST
From: [e-mail] (Rand Gray)
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Fair Radio Sales


I wrote a letter to Fair Radio Sales requesting a catalog.  It came about
6 weeks after I sent the letter.

There is no charge, and it is always fun to flip through.

-Rand W1GXN
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From [e-mail]  Fri Nov 19 19:27:10 1993
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Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
From: [e-mail] (Randy)
Subject: Re: Fair Radio Sales 10 day wait+
To: [e-mail] (karayannopoulos, george)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1993 19:26:03 -0500 (EST)
Cc: [e-mail]
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]> from "karayannopoulos,george" at Nov 19, 93 05:20:00 pm
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>
> Somebody mentioned Fair Radio Sales and their catalog and posted phone #s.
> I called and called and called, but they were always busy. Finally I got
> through via fax. I sent in a request for their catalog. That was abt 10
> days ago. I have not received anything.

 Is there a charge for the catalog? --- No.

> ___________________________________________________________________
Altho their building is large, the staff is not.
They have been S W A M P E D recently with orders...I didn't help either
when I ordered a slew of odds and ends...(last month I think)

This is just like CW Xtals ( W0LPS) .... had to wait 3 1/2 mo. for my xtals
(he added a note explaining he was backlogged)

Just hang in there... and if too much time passes, retry again.

I got my free cat 3 weeks later from FRS

--
Randy KA1UNW              If you get a shock while
                         servicing  your  equipment,         "Works for me!"
randy@192.153.4.200             DON'T  JUMP!                     -Peter Keyes
                     You might break an expensive tube!

From [e-mail]  Fri Nov 19 19:51:34 1993
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    id AA23025; Fri, 19 Nov 93 16:51:24 PST
    id AA01004; Fri, 19 Nov 93 16:51:22 PST
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 93 16:51:22 PST
From: [e-mail] (Paul Blumstein)
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Sheet Metal Brake ?

 Larry Keith wrotee:
+> Does any one know where I can find an small inexpensive (Cheap but not
+> poor quality) sheet metal brake sutable for making cabnets for my QRP
+> projects?
+>
+OK, Company is Northern Hydraulics, P. O. Box 1499, Burnsville, MN
[phone]   1-800-533-5545
+
+Item 15240, "Bendito" Heavy Duty Metal Bending Brake, $259.99
+
+Looks good!
+
+I know nothing about these folks.  I just get their catalogs.

I've ordered a Leatherman's Tool from them with noi hassle.
More important, someone I work with has ordered a bunch of times
with no problem.

From [e-mail]  Fri Nov 19 20:06:39 1993
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Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
   Fri, 19 Nov 93 20:06:21 EST
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 93 16:52:18 PST
From: [e-mail]
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Dumb question...

I don't want to start a riot or anything, I've just been rather curious
about something ever since I got my license.

There is a lot of talk about the cw portions of the bands getting squashed
by rtty/packet/ssb/...  When I look at the band allocations and the sub-
allocation for phone, and the suballocation for rtty & data, I can't help
but notice that CW is allowed everywhere in the band.

So, why do cw operators stick (like glued with crazy glue) to a small
portion at the bottom end of the band?

Hams using ssb on the 40 meter band get really squashed and wiped out
when the AM broadcast stations start to skip.  A lot of times there is
not enough room for an ssb station between two AM stations.  But there
would be plenty of room for 1 or 2 cw stations...

I've often thought about going up and sending a few CQs, but never
had enough nerve.  I just figured the SSB ops might start chewing me
out.  But then again, my narrow cw filter won't allow enough of their
sig through to be able to understand them anyway...


So what's the big deal?  Or, is this too dumb a question I shouldn't
even ask...


tnx & 73,
km6wt,       [e-mail]   or   [e-mail]


From [e-mail]  Fri Nov 19 21:31:22 1993
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    for [e-mail] id AA09252; Fri, 19 Nov 93 18:31:16 -0800
    for @sgi.sgi.com:[e-mail] id AA28601; Fri, 19 Nov 93 20:31:04 -0600
    for @sgidal.dallas.sgi.com:[e-mail] id AA12734; Fri, 19 Nov 93 20:31:03 -0600
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 93 20:31:03 -0600
From: [e-mail] (Chuck Adams)
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Solder


 Re: Solder

Brian, AE9K,

The solder that I use is Kester (tm) Sn63 Alloy Core 66 Flux 331
Diameter 0.031.  I don't have the box to get other details.

Litton, Des Plaines, Il 60018 is the company.

I love the stuff myself and follow all the precautions of washing
before eating anything after working with the stuff for hours.

hasn't it no me effect all at.

tid  tid  of5k ed 37

:-)

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Chuck Adams, K5FO - CP60
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From [e-mail]  Fri Nov 19 21:38:31 1993
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From: [e-mail] (John Welch)
Subject: Re: single sideband
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> So: the question is:  What kind of circuit will take a RF signal
> anywhere between .5 MHz and 110 MHz, and generate a signal exactly 5KHz
> higher, with excellent spurious rejection?  It sounds like the SSB
> "phasing" technique, but with a single fixed audio frequency instead
> of a speech waveform.  This would make the audio phase shifter trivial,
> but because of the variable RF freq, the RF phase shifter would be
> (IMHO) very hard to implement!  The number of components in the
> aluminum box is suprisingly small.
>
> Any insight?
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> Doug Braun     Intel Israel, Ltd.      M/S: IDC1-41
>                Tel: [phone]   [e-mail]

    Possibly a PLL - I've seen (in the Signetics databook) a PLL
quadrature generator.  If it already is in 5 bands, this could also be
using a PLL to generate the frequency, thus making it even easier.

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John Welch, N9JZW

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Subject: Re: Dumb question...cw freqs
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 Well, to be polite, CW is kept mostly where CW-only (USA) is allowed.
Then too, there are DX windows that are universally world-wide accepted as
being on some such n so freqs, generally at the bottom of each band.
 Then there are those of us who only have Novice or Tech+  tickets and so
there is a freq limit there....
 The QRP calling freq's are on 3710kc and 7110kc, for 80 & 40 mtrs, altho,
a QRPer will go where his ticket lets him go.....so same it seems, these
SSBers and Honking Squawnking what ever they are's ( some are packet, amtor
but,there are a few out there, that I think  need an oil change).

 It's gotten so bad, I just don't get on between after-dusk, until past
midnite.
 I get on before dusk, and well past midnite now.

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Randy KA1UNW              If you get a shock while
                         servicing  your  equipment,         "Works for me!"
randy@192.153.4.200             DON'T  JUMP!                     -Peter Keyes
                     You might break an expensive tube!